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Charge rate is highly dependent on your state of charge (SOC). If you're only getting 68kW it's because your SOC is over 50%. On the Model 3 SR+ it will be up to 130kW up to ~30% SOC on a Supercharger, up to 170kW on an Ultra Fast Charger.

Tesla Superchargers are paired and share the same chargers so you should avoid parking next to someone else on the same pair i.e. 3A/3B. Each pair shares ~150kW so if someone is already pulling 120kW you'll get max 30kW but that will improve for you as their charge rate goes down.

If you want fast charging:
- avoid paired Superchargers
- use Ultra Fast Chargers from Chargefox
- run your SOC below 20%
- use the Tesla navigation which will precondition the battery for fast charging at Superchargers and optimise charging so you get to each Supercharger with ~15% remaining for faster charging and a buffer for headwinds or driving over the speed limit.
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^^^^^ yeah, even so starting below 60% and sub 40 seemed a bit low.......and the other guy was still there when we left 20+ mins later.

I notice some shopping centres have free 22 kWh facilities and am wondering if that’s AC or DC (I’m assuming AC)?.
Will the M3SR+ charge at 22 or is it AC and limited to 11 max?.

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Yes, the 22kW is AC but the Model 3 can only take 11kW max on AC.
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dgh853 wrote:
Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 17:22
Yes, the 22kW is AC but the Model 3 can only take 11kW max on AC.
Thanks for the clarification - I much prefer AC if I’ve got the time.

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From Melbourne to Narooma (684 kms of the Princes Hwy) there is still not one Supercharger.
Who determines installation priority in Australia?.
Although 2 are supposedly ‘planned’ the last one, Lakes Entrance, is still insufficient to cover the route.
Anyone in Victoria would think the federal government was responsible for the choices funded.

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Nagaman wrote:
Sat, 11 Apr 2020, 12:42
Who determines installation priority in Australia?.
It's a combination of a lot of things - finding a convenient location, a willing site host, availability of electrical capacity, council approval (if required), civil/electrical contractor availability, and of course spacing between other sites with have all the same challenges. All of these things take various lengths of time. They could kick off 20 locations at once, and while some may take 3 months others might take 2 years.
Although 2 are supposedly ‘planned’ the last one, Lakes Entrance, is still insufficient to cover the route.
Anyone in Victoria would think the federal government was responsible for the choices funded.
It doesn't matter where they put them, or plan to put them - until 100% of Australia is covered someone is going to find a route that isn't covered and be unhappy about it. In the last 12.5 months they've opened 12 new locations in Australia, four of these have been in the last 6 weeks. They'll get there eventually. Notably, the only regional areas that are planned but not complete are in Victoria so likely that will be their focus for this year. (They also have 2 non-regional locations marked, in Brisbane and Perth).

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The whole of the Victorian coast has just one in Warrnambool and Victoria is the most densely populated state.

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And there are ten other superchargers in other parts of Victoria covering most of the rest of the state.

Since I live in a place which is unlikely to see superchargers for some time (Tasmania) I see comments like this and look at them from an objective point of view. I get that people want superchargers in the area that they travel - but the same argument could be applied to lots of areas across the country, and everyone thinks their preferred region is being intentionally excluded by Tesla. It's hard to see how this region is any more urgent or important than any other region. In any case, as I mentioned, this area is the only one remaining on Tesla's "coming soon" map so it seems to be an area they will prioritise.

I have had a look on the council development applications in these areas but haven't seen anything show up (although note, not every electric vehicle charging station requires a DA):

https://www.bawbawshire.vic.gov.au/Plan ... plications

https://www.latrobe.vic.gov.au/Property ... advertised

https://www.wellington.vic.gov.au/pages ... -on-notice

https://www.eastgippsland.vic.gov.au/Pl ... plications

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Nagaman wrote:
Sun, 12 Apr 2020, 12:17
The whole of the Victorian coast has just one in Warrnambool and Victoria is the most densely populated state.
It also has the smallest coastline

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brunohill wrote:
Mon, 13 Apr 2020, 11:29
Nagaman wrote:
Sun, 12 Apr 2020, 12:17
The whole of the Victorian coast has just one in Warrnambool and Victoria is the most densely populated state.
It also has the smallest coastline
NSW isn’t 7 times greater.

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Yeah but Western Australia, South Australia and Northern Territory have a pretty long coastline (and there's nothing through the middle either) and only one location in WA is actually there...
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and not to mention there's not a lot going on in Queensland.

Granted the population density is lower but the point is, there are a lot of gaps in coverage

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So I tried the Euroa Chargefox ‘ultra-rapid’ charger today, just to confirm my app functionality.
Arriving with 56% and charging to 66% , at no time did the ultra rapid charge rate get above 38 kWh and in fact tapered to just 33.
Is this purely because I didn’t precondition the battery prior?
What vehicle would see an ultra rapid charge rate?

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So I wonder just how much longer is Highway 1 from Melbourne to Sydney going to be unavailable for EV owners due to zero rapid chargers in the 500+ km Victorian section. (Westbound you will almost certainly have a considerable headwind in winter and similarly eastbound in summer)
A combined 10 million people makes the question viable.

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