Importing Electric kick scooters

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Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by Monty60 » Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 12:43

Hi everyone.

Looking to import a brand of electric kick scooters into Australia but have hit some red tape from the usual Government body. Applied for the necessary import approval prior to paying for some sample scooters and I get a refusal letter from the engineer stating that the specifications are above the 200w guidelines. What the hell!!!!

I then applied for a general exclusion stating that all the electric kick scooters currently being marketed and supplied in Australia are way above this 200w maximum but still got refused an import approval.

So question is does anyone know how Inokim, Segway or the others are getting their scooters past these archaic 200w maximum guidelines?? Are they lying on the application for import approval or what ???

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Re: Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by antiscab » Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 12:55

Import as parts and assemble here?
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Re: Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by Richo » Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 12:54

Segway get through as they are classified as off-road use only and now for approved specialised tour groups.
The other issue is even if you get them in once you pay for EMC plus safety certs to be able to sell them you'd need to sell a lot to even break even.

Its an endless on going problem
https://thewest.com.au/news/perth/case- ... b88525388z

Even if we changed it 5 years ago we'd only just be keeping up with the Jones's.
We are just so far behind the 8-ball it hilarious.
So the short answer is NO but the long answer is YES.
Help prevent road rage - get outta my way!

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Re: Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by Monty60 » Sat, 23 Feb 2019, 14:26

Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.

I tried importing them as an "off-road" version but still got rejected. Apparently the scooters didnt have the ground clearance or off road tyres to be classified as an off road vehicle.

I know Cycleboard in the USA took over 18 months to get their products approved for import. But who has the time, money or energy to follow that path.

I see numerous brands and model electric scooters on the road and on footpaths every day here in Brisbane. So IT can be done but HOW???

Very frustrating.

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Re: Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by Adverse Effects » Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 07:45

i can tell you now it comes down to who you want to pay off or who you are related to

like LIME scooters have to be WAY over 250Watt (PS the limit is 250 watt not 200 like you where told)
they can propel a 100Kg mass to 25Kmph that takes way more than 250watts

Scooter rivals fear Lime monopoly as Brisbane 'Juicers' feel squeeze
Lime scooters' Brisbane permit extended to middle of the year
"Initially, Transport and Main Roads wrote to the scooter-sharing company to warn users they would be breaking several laws if they took one of the "illegal" scooters for a spin during a planned trial, with fines of up to $10,444.

However, Transport Minister Mark Bailey later intervened to announce Lime would be offered a temporary exemption during a review of Queensland's laws and regulations."
see its who you pay or who you know

you cold just "borrow" one
Turn a Lime or Bird into a Personal Scooter


just been doing a bit of looking around
almost all of them are Xiaomi M365 Electric Scooter or clones of
there motor is 500w at 36v and can easly take 48v so that is what 750watt's
If you don't have time to do it right,
When will you have time to do it over

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Re: Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by mikedufty » Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 10:23

they can propel a 100Kg mass to 25Kmph that takes way more than 250watts
They may well be more than 250w, but 250w is quite adequate to get to 25kph on a bicycle ( I have a cycle analyst that shows the power draw) and I suspect will do on a scooter too.
The claimed performance is possibly optimistic too. The one I rode in Singapore I think needed a very smooth path and a bit of a downhill and some patience to hit 25.

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Re: Importing Electric kick scooters

Post by Richo » Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 12:39

"Initially, Transport and Main Roads wrote to the scooter-sharing company to warn users they would be breaking several laws if they took one of the "illegal" scooters for a spin during a planned trial, with fines of up to $10,444."
Ah see there's the problem.
There are so many ways to help the world and the environment - fining people isn't it.
Who said we live in a free country.

Yeah so I'd still go with Matt and import in bits and assemble here.
So the short answer is NO but the long answer is YES.
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