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Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 12:36
by Peter C in Canberra
This ‘frunk’ or ‘froot’ almost fits too well to be coincidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kurEcjkVBk
You can skip the first half of the video - it is just fitting a gas lift strut thingy to the bonnet. See how the moulded charge cable and accessory tray just neatly fits under the bonnet.
Also here: https://www.speakev.com/threads/kona-ge ... nk.127544/

I suspect that expanded polystyrene might not hold up well bouncing on the 4 supports of the original bit of plastic ‘shield’. However, it looks like a better made box of useful volume would be designed to mount in the same place and retain the same ventilation clearance as that bit of plastic. Here someone has had just that thought with a less neat but probably more robust variation: https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/view ... 9&start=70 (scroll down to pictures)

And a variation: or https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 5-223-5875

On a trip with the back full of luggage, it could be handy to have more boot space and to not have the charge cord buried under luggage. Accessible next to the charge port seems a good place for a kit of extension lead plus 32A adjustable portable EVSE plus various adaptors to live permanently.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 17:39
by photomac
Crickey! I’ve been looking to moulding the rear to improve storage and was looking at getting thermal camera to test temperature of controller for frunk potential. We are all mad! Kewl to see. Mmmm .... inspiration!

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 18:25
by coulomb
Peter C in Canberra wrote: Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 12:36 You can skip the first half of the video - it is just fitting a gas lift strut thingy to the bonnet.
So... from here?


See how the moulded charge cable and accessory tray just neatly fits under the bonnet.
With unreasonable effectiveness! ;)

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 18:53
by brunohill
Perhaps the space saver spare wheel that comes with the petrol Kona will then fit in the rear.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Mon, 30 Sep 2019, 21:07
by reecho
brunohill wrote: Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 18:53 Perhaps the space saver spare wheel that comes with the petrol Kona will then fit in the rear.
They don't. Some new Kona ICE models now have pump and goo as well.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Wed, 02 Oct 2019, 05:15
by g4qber
Indian Kona EV comes with spare wheel

https://youtu.be/5G6_-Qo1mwU

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 03 Oct 2019, 18:25
by EVdownUnder
g4qber wrote: Wed, 02 Oct 2019, 05:15 Indian Kona EV comes with spare wheel
I'm not surprised... For having spent a few months in India, many k's on the road including a head-on collision with a truck in a taxi... Any car in India should come with a spare.
A spare car that is :lol:

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 18:35
by Manto
Have done this and the gas struts as well which are pretty cool
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Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Wed, 11 Mar 2020, 15:22
by Peter C in Canberra
I have just ordered one of these frunk/froots for myself and one for a friend. Postage was 65 Euro whether one or two was sent, so we shared the shipping cost. Total was about $340 each after conversion.
I was reassured by the seller having bothered to do some checking on temperature rise with and without the frunk using thermal imaging and she payed attention to recording details such length of charging and ambient temperature. See here: http://www.frunk.at/en/generally/
Being mounted the same way with the same gap as the silly plastic shield thingy, the air flow should be pretty much the same. The item immediately below is the on-board charger.
I was also impressed when I realised the top edge is shaped to follow the contours of the bonnet snuggly so stuff cannot bounce out and not much dust should get in.
I like putting an assortment of cables out of the way of everything else, not stuck underneath luggage and right next to the charge port.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 08:47
by bje
Looks interesting, Peter!

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 09:21
by Peter C in Canberra
Here it is installed.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 09:24
by Peter C in Canberra
Manto wrote: Sun, 08 Mar 2020, 18:35 Have done this and the gas struts as well which are pretty cool
Our Hyundai dealer stressed to us that we should not push down on the bonnet to close it because it is a soft aluminium. Instead, we were instructed, we should just drop the bonnet from a certain height to close.
How have things worked out with the gas struts?

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Mon, 22 Jun 2020, 12:20
by Manto
Havent had an issue with the gas struts. It does take a bit of a slam to close the bonnet and I do this without pushing down on it. My frunk arrived last week as well
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Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 19:54
by EVdownUnder
It does look very neat and practical.
Anyone in Melbourne interested to join me to save on shipping cost?

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 22:04
by photomac
Question . how much dust and spray gets into the Frunk box?
Should an elastic cover be added or does the aluminium bonnet‘s foam do the trick?
I have noticed the AC charger beneath ( faux engine block head ) gets quite warm and can exceed 65C so a space is required to vent and the foam wedged down on top is not a good idea. Comments?

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Fri, 17 Jul 2020, 06:16
by Peter C in Canberra
photomac wrote: Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 22:04 Question . how much dust and spray gets into the Frunk box?
Should an elastic cover be added or does the aluminium bonnet‘s foam do the trick?
I have noticed the AC charger beneath ( faux engine block head ) gets quite warm and can exceed 65C so a space is required to vent and the foam wedged down on top is not a good idea. Comments?
Mine has been in place for a few months and its insides are staying clean. I think the trimmed edge of the Austrian 'premium' box is well matched to the shape of the underside of the bonnet.
Yes, the AC charger below gets warm. I also would not use the foam out of the back of the car in the front. The Austrian Frunk maintains the air gap above the charger and their site shows thermal images showing that the charger does not get any warmer with the Frunk compared with the original plastic cover.
A friend made an enquiry about the Austrian frunk recently and was told they are revising their design to use a custom box rather than the modified off-the-shelf boxes they have used until now.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 22:31
by EVdownUnder
Peter C in Canberra wrote: Fri, 17 Jul 2020, 06:16 A friend made an enquiry about the Austrian frunk recently and was told they are revising their design to use a custom box rather than the modified off-the-shelf boxes they have used until now.
Thank you for mentioning this Peter. I’ve always been very interested to buy one, and looking at the new version, it looks like a very nice accessory to have (the only thing that makes a Model 3 marginally better :roll: ), so I asked them for prices.

If I buy just one for me, it would cost me about $410 delivered. But as a box can hold 3 for the same shipping cost, if we group buy 3, the price is then about $320 delivered (not counting possible freight in Australia).
I even asked for quantity discount but this only starts at 9 units and would bring the delivered price to just below $300.

So I am trying again, is anyone interested to join in a group purchase?
Ideally all of us from Melbourne to avoid extra shipping.
But of course if 3 people are interested from any location, I’m happy to forward the email. BTW they replied a few hours after my request. Impressive!
All those prices include GST.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Sun, 06 Sep 2020, 13:54
by antday
I've posted this over on FB but thought it would a good idea to do a forum post.
I figured the imported frunk from Austria was a bit too exxy fire me, so went the diy route. It cost less than $30
I bought a 30 litre container from Bunnings, 3D printed some posts that use the rubbers from the engine cover to mount to the car. The 3D printed posts have slots for aluminium bars 2mm X 25mm , unfortunately Bunnings sell 1mm and 3mm bars so I had to double up the 1mm bars. I will modify and print some posts with 3mm so that is a bit more sturdy.
I attached the container to the bars with zip ties. Bingo.
It's done a 1000km trip in the rain and on rough roads and worked well with no issues , no water ingress or even dust.

3D printed posts here :https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4065215
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Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 05:19
by Jarrad
EVdownUnder wrote: Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 22:31 So I am trying again, is anyone interested to join in a group purchase?
Hi Patrick, I'm interested. I'm up in Canberra though. When were you looking to purchase?

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 08:51
by Peter C in Canberra
Jarrad wrote: Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 05:19
EVdownUnder wrote: Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 22:31 So I am trying again, is anyone interested to join in a group purchase?
Hi Patrick, I'm interested. I'm up in Canberra though. When were you looking to purchase?
I have a friend in Canberra who is picking up a Kona this weekend. He said he could be interested in sharing the cost of postage for a Frunk after looking at mine. That could be two for a separate Canberra bulk buy.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 22:08
by EVdownUnder
Excellent. I’m ready to buy. I’ll find out how much to ship between Melbourne and Canberra or the other way around and get back to you.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 15:36
by 4Springs
antday wrote: Sun, 06 Sep 2020, 13:54 I bought a 30 litre container from Bunnings, 3D printed some posts that use the rubbers from the engine cover to mount to the car. The 3D printed posts have slots for aluminium bars 2mm X 25mm , unfortunately Bunnings sell 1mm and 3mm bars so I had to double up the 1mm bars. I will modify and print some posts with 3mm so that is a bit more sturdy.
This sounds like the way to go. Would anyone like to sell me those 3D printed post things?

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 15:47
by Peter C in Canberra
Peter C in Canberra wrote: Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 08:51
Jarrad wrote: Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 05:19
EVdownUnder wrote: Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 22:31 So I am trying again, is anyone interested to join in a group purchase?
Hi Patrick, I'm interested. I'm up in Canberra though. When were you looking to purchase?
I have a friend in Canberra who is picking up a Kona this weekend. He said he could be interested in sharing the cost of postage for a Frunk after looking at mine. That could be two for a separate Canberra bulk buy.
Two Kona owners I spoke to today who are in Canberra are interested in a Froot. With Jarrad, that would make an order of three that could be shipped direct to Canberra from Austria. Jarrad, would you like me to put you in touch with the other two Canberran Kona owners and leave the three of you to sort something out?

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 17:49
by brendon_m
4Springs wrote: Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 15:36
antday wrote: Sun, 06 Sep 2020, 13:54 I bought a 30 litre container from Bunnings, 3D printed some posts that use the rubbers from the engine cover to mount to the car. The 3D printed posts have slots for aluminium bars 2mm X 25mm , unfortunately Bunnings sell 1mm and 3mm bars so I had to double up the 1mm bars. I will modify and print some posts with 3mm so that is a bit more sturdy.
This sounds like the way to go. Would anyone like to sell me those 3D printed post things?
I don't know about where you are but the local libraries near me have 3d printers and you can go there with a usb and they will print stuff for you. Its dirt cheap as well, basically just the cost of the filament.

Re: Frunk/Froot for Kona

Posted: Sun, 20 Sep 2020, 07:30
by Jarrad
Peter C in Canberra wrote: Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 15:47 ..Jarrad, would you like me to put you in touch with the other two Canberran Kona owners and leave the three of you to sort something out?
That'd be great, thanks Peter.

Sorry Patrick but it looks like there'll be a full order for Canberra. Hope some other Melbourne Kona owners step up:)