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Yes faster charging would be great, although how often you actually need it is something to consider.
It reminds me of my first year in Australia from Europe where a 1.8L car is a BIG car, and colleagues telling me: "Yes but what if you tow!" And when asked how often they actually towed, or drive from Melbourne to Sydney in the case of an EV, you can rent a Toyota Land Cruiser for quite a few weekends with the savings of owning a small car or an EV.

As for the low speed noise (VESS - Virtual Engine Sound System on the Kona), yes I'm glad I have an ON/OFF switch when I reverse out of my driveway at 6am. Again, very rare but still. I like having the choice.
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EVdownUnder wrote:
Fri, 26 Jun 2020, 21:03
Yes faster charging would be great, although how often you actually need it is something to consider.
It's a problem you never need to consider with an ICE; the old 95th percentile use case. The trouble is, every percentile above 90 is increasingly more expensive and extravagant than the one before it. We do one long trip a year, on average. So waiting an hour at each charger can be stomached. But if we were doing that trip on a regular basis I would have got a different car.
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Fri, 26 Jun 2020, 20:21
My Kona was at the dealer today for its 30’000km service.
I took the opportunity to ask Doncaster Hyundai for a full EV Ionic as a loan car.
I drove about 100km in the top of the range Ionic Premium.

Well, I have to admit that if you forget the range difference* (311km vs 449km WLTP), the Ionic is a better car in every way. Don’t shoot me, these are just personal opinions:

More quiet. Possibly due to the better Michelin Premacy 4 instead of the very average Nexen.

Better interior in general. More spacious all around, very noticeable for the rear passengers.
Bigger boot (possibly not if you count the big cavity under the floor, but when your boot is full of parts and tools or camping gear, accessing it is extremely impractical. This is why I need that frunk/froot thing), although possibly not as practical shape wise.
Memory seat! Yes thank you. At $70k, the top of the range Kona should really have this option.
Hard to explain but it just feels more "premium" in the Ionic.

I have always liked SUVs for the ride height and visibility, and the boot size and shape. But as mentioned, all my tools and spare parts for my job fitted better in the Ionic, and I didn’t really notice a big difference in the ride height and view forward and sides. Between the seat at max top position (I'm 174cm short) and the skateboard batteries under, it feel much higher than a Toyota Corolla.
One beef, I know it may look good from the outside but this horizontal pillar obscuring the rear view… A perfect example of form over function. Thankfully partially compensated by a good quality rear view camera. Rear view that can be seen at the press of a button at any speed. Cool!

And the lane keep assist ACTUALLY assists. Not sure if the Kona has all the hardware required but the bouncing from side to side is NOT a lane keep assistant.

But it’s not perfect. If you have even mild OCD, the shiny piano black finish with finger marks all over is very annoying. Besides, nothing beats a good old button to minimise the need to take my eyes off the road. The do like the bigger screen and possibility to split it in thirds. Perfect for nerds. Map on 2 third and EV data on 1 third. But is it me or you can’t customise that third when in Android Auto?

As for 100kW/295Nm instead of 150/395, possibly due to the weight difference, it sure doesn't feel sluggish, and still more fun than any ICE cars I've had.
And the flip side is that the efficiency is even better than the Kona. My current consumption from new on the Kona is 12.7KWh/100km, I'm thinking that 11.0 to 11.5 average is achievable.

So my first (and only) 100km impressions, scatter a few more fast chargers to compensate of the range difference and it could be my next car.
Unless I go all out and get the Rivian R1T or R1S ;) I’m just not sure how you’re supposed to park these monsters in a small underground car park…
And let's not forget that the top of the range Ionic is about $13'000 cheaper than the top of the range Kona. Not negligible. And I could probably buy 3 or 4 for the price of the R1S.

*About the range, for those who don't know, I drive 40'000km per year and can't see the point of installing a charger at my house. 240Vac 10A is all I need and very rarely at that.
PlugShare is a great charging station location app that I use extensively to plug all over the place and mostly for free.
Agree on the Nexen tyre. They are junk but LLR. Primacy 4 is much quieter with minimal extra energy use.

Note the Kona only has LKA as standard. The 2020 Ioniq has LKA which then changes to LFA with cruise control. The Ioniq will feel smarter in comparison.

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jonescg wrote:
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LOL, Km driven on one charge is the only measure mate, not the GOM numbers.
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I know that ☺.
I think so far 325 km around town is my best yet.
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JD Solar and EV wrote:
Wed, 01 Jul 2020, 18:35
LOL, Km driven on one charge is the only measure mate, not the GOM numbers.
For a true nerd, even GoM numbers are valid as bragging rights 8-)
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30'800km at an average speed of 57km/h
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