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Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Fri, 16 Oct 2020, 15:24
by philupandgo
I didn't know we still had de-restriction zones. Presumably the map data will be adequate in those remote areas.
I haven't noticed 40.4 slowing down for posted speed signs; it just nags with the pulsing limit icon.
It had no problem recognising construction zone signs, although the ones i saw were normal red ring signs, just down near the ground.
Personally i don't mind autonomy obeying the law; it has to be easier to encode. Once all cars obey the law, maybe the limits will start going up (remind me in 50 years). Either way, level 4/5 will reduce the value of fast transit.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 06:47
by Nagaman
Yeah the de restrictions signs are few and far between now that I come to think of it.
Resting your foot on the accelerator is something I recommend on the connecting roads and minor highways because the mapping errors can cause a situation in traffic.
I don’t know who is responsible for overseeing errors such as fake town limits but I’m collecting a comprehensive list of potentially embarrassing locations .
In Victoria we have some advisory town limits ‘ahead’ type signs and that is now identified as the regen/braking point......and another inappropriate action will occur.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 12:46
by g4qber
Should be mandatory for distracted drivers to get a Tesla as part of their penance.
Teslas have dangerous wiggles at certain spots in WA so pay attention.
I’ve had speed recognition go down to 5kmh too.

Speed laws may need to be changed for vehicles with speed recognition.
Takes 7 secs to slow from 110kmh to 80kmh.
Currently need to be at speed limit before passing the sign.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Thu, 22 Oct 2020, 10:34
by Nagaman
After 40.4 speed recognition works pretty well but maybe the old(?) de restriction sign recognition is patchy because it worked for Andy (Teslander) but not when I went past one ......they do seem to be pretty rare now.
Mapping errors remain beyond major highways.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Thu, 22 Oct 2020, 12:56
by g4qber
Bug with 40.4 is that need to physically remove USB drive during formatting process and retry format
.8 May fix bug

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Thu, 22 Oct 2020, 16:21
by Nagaman
g4qber wrote: Thu, 22 Oct 2020, 12:56 Bug with 40.4 is that need to physically remove USB drive during formatting process and retry format
.8 May fix bug
Forgive me as I’m a bit old for this tech stuff, can you explain one who is only capable of plug n play understanding of USB use ?
Is that about sentry storage device or music sticks for preparation before an update or something else....

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Fri, 23 Oct 2020, 05:59
by Nagaman
And now 40.8 ........I just hope someone gets around to those mapping errors soon !

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Sat, 24 Oct 2020, 19:35
by g4qber
Yes sentry and dashcam footage Saving to memory card

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Sun, 25 Oct 2020, 13:03
by Nagaman
I’m just wondering where the mapping errors (speeds) come from.......maybe it’s that autopilot simply makes the errors obvious now.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Tue, 27 Oct 2020, 14:49
by Nagaman
Well today’s little sojourn to Echuca resulted in finding the mapping error is now resolved by legible speed signs overriding mapping speed errors......sooo much better now and the most significant improvement to me in my environment.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2020, 11:52
by Nagaman
Re 40.8 -
Well I thought speed sign recognition had resolved the mapping speed errors, but inconsistencies mean that it does ‘mostly’.
It brakes for 60 AHEAD usually....leaving an 80 zone a sign saying END 80 isn’t understood as meaning resume 100......fair enough because it’s a dumb signboard when a simple 100 would be straightforward and precise.
Phantom braking is even more weird and unpredictable.
The full rewrite can’t come soon enough.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Sat, 07 Nov 2020, 08:36
by g4qber
44.10.1
USB formatting bug not fixed.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2020, 16:40
by Nagaman
40.10.1
How sweet to not be forced to accelerate to the max......the option to maintain a desired speed.
A bit less phantom braking too.
We have some END 80 type signs which can’t make sense to a camera, so that sort of sign need replacing with a simple number.
You just keep being reminded what you have with a Tesla.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Wed, 25 Nov 2020, 04:45
by g4qber
44.15
USB formatting bug
Stop charge bug on Schneider evlinks

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 05:17
by g4qber
48.10
USB formatting bug

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 12:39
by Nagaman
I’ve given up worrying about the numerous bugs and inconsistencies until the complete rewrite is installed after just another day of unpredictable behaviour.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 19:44
by Nagaman
After 48.10 and the hit and miss speed sign recognition, I’ve come to the conclusion that the decks are being cleared for the much anticipated total rewrite.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Mon, 21 Dec 2020, 06:59
by g4qber
2020.48.12.1

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Mon, 28 Dec 2020, 05:51
by g4qber
2020.48.26
New graphics and layout.
USB formatting bug still present.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Mon, 28 Dec 2020, 13:29
by Nagaman
Speed inconsistencies still there.
Inappropriate braking also.
TACC still surging......slow camera resolution problem.
Etc

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 10:54
by Nagaman
I don’t understand why the ‘power bar’ has been made almost indecipherably small .
Why change the battery status from green to grey.
Can we have some meaningful improvements instead of change for change’s sake !
Less trivia more content please.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Fri, 01 Jan 2021, 07:25
by g4qber
2020.48.30 - Happy New Year 2021

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Fri, 01 Jan 2021, 14:16
by philupandgo
This post is half about 10.2 and half about my experience of driving an EV interstate, and in particular of FSD progress.

No 48.30 yet, but got 2020.48.26 on Monday and headed north into NSW on Tuesday to visit family in Canberra. Then on Wednesday headed through Cooma before going west to Hay where i was booked in at The Convent (very nice). Had planned a round trip through Tanunda SA (to try out the new NRMA route) then back home to Melbourne, but of course everything had changed and could not confirm permit access into SA, or if i even needed it seeing i would be entering from Mildura, already in Victoria. (I also had a dial-in access issue to solve for work which wouldn't download remotely over the phone, but which turned out to be nothing anyway). From Hay on Thursday i headed back through Albury clutching a permit and on home. No need for quarantine except for a day waiting on a mandatory covid test (still waiting).

Everything still takes longer than planned in ABRP because of using more kw than expected (YMMV). I don't care much for presice tuning in ABRP and am happy over time to just account for variation as i get to each charger. My only anxiety was on the drive from Cooma on the Snowy Mountains Highway to the Hume, a route i had never taken before. I had originally planned to come out at Tarcutta, but ABRP thought it best that i head for Gundagai instead (Model 3 SR+). I drove most of it 10km/h under the limit, but needn't have worried as i only used 60% of the battery (starting from 90%). If i had done the same run in winter, i would probably not have made it, whereas a 2021 model might be fine. Going the other direction might also be different because of an effective elevation gain of 540m (that is, 1km difference from what i did). In the end it would have been more convenient to have gone through Tarcutta, even though Teslas currently have to pull in at the back of the charger, as i might have been able to skip Narrandera. The run from Narrandera to Hay was the first time my car has had range anxiety. It prompted a couple of times for me to plan for charging for fear of being too far to return to the last charger. I suspect it would have done the same thing all the way to Berri SA.

My last trip to Canberra was this time last year and 2019.40.50.1, my first update, had newly intoduced NoA to FSD in Aus. On a blustery hot day, it was ping-ponging, veering into the little lay-bys that dot the Hume freeway in NSW, constantly wanting to change lanes, and the usual phantom braking. This year the ping-ponging is barely perceptible and infrequent, possibly still related to gusty wind. Veering toward lay-bys doesn't happen, but wanting to change lanes "to stay on route" does still happen, possibly mostly related to freeway merge lanes, but way way too early. Phantom braking is significantly reduced but still needs a wary eye on following traffic and i still tend, in my mind, to hover over the accelerator rather than the brake pedal, which i am not happy about. New this year, NoA is constantly turned off for our propensity for cross roads on interstate freeways. It advises that it is about to happen and resumes a lttle way after. Mostly, these were mapped correctly in the navigation mapping. When i have family/friends in the car, they are bemused by all the bells and whistles, and this would be just another one to complain about. I don't mind all of the beeps and bops as it is part of the feedback and not unlike having a conversation with a budgie. Now that we have speed-sign reading, as u/Nagaman has noted, it is a little hit and miss; sometimes conveniently slowing at the "50 Ahead" sign and sometimes missing them altogether; sometimes noting the change but not reacting automatically. Freeway exits, which i don't experience much because of not living near an interstaste, are also a struggle for me, as it doesn't begin slowing until after indicating the direction change, which itself only occurs at the actual ramp beginning; way too late for my liking, and i usually have already taken over. Our freeway design also starts the exit lane with a jutted out paint marking which catches out the auto-steering. Of more concern is the tendency to swing wide on left hand curves. This isn't obvious on the freeway so much as on normal A and B roads. It starts the turn a little late and takes a while to re-align, typically over-compensating on twisty roads. It was enough of a problem that i needed to be aware of what was coming the other way (yes, we all do anyway) and take over if we were going to meet at the curve, particularly for trucks. Taking over on a curve needs way less steering effort than for a straight section of road, so is quite safe and intuitive. Right hand curves didn't seem to have the same issue. It seemed that there might have been an encoded bias for inside curves that wasn't translated from left hand drive to right hand drive.

On the whole, this year the car was more confidence inspiring than the year before and felt more normal to use. Last year it required more mental and reactive effort to use FSD than to just drive, whereas this year it is easier than driving myself, and i'm sure is less fatiguing over the day. While i was already atuned to longer drive times, i am now also more settle to just follow traffic. New this year is an inclination to graze at every charge opportunity rather than to plan longer charging around "normal" meal breaks.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Fri, 01 Jan 2021, 17:59
by Nagaman
Good gen Philip.
I’m just hanging out for the rewrite and hoping it brings consistency.
Mapping speed errors in central Victoria still.
I have reacquainted myself with the TomTom GO620 for the speed camera and alternative route directions in event of a major issue way ahead of the standard Tesla map display.......important when enroute to Melbourne. it sits down on the upper piano black flap (charge cable is almost unnoticeable running back to the rear USB port) and I can still flip it enough to extract the phone from the charging pad.
I’ve worked out that the energy consumption data points are have absolute accuracy and linearity......the efficiency of the SR+ is brilliant.
27,000 kms @ 121wh/km.
I can work on 4km/1% battery for range calculations now.
The MG is going to be an interesting addition.

Re: OTA Update v10.2

Posted: Wed, 06 Jan 2021, 09:50
by Nagaman
48.30 means constant distraction trying to get the tyre pressure/trip cards to display instead of spinning the car image around like a catherine wheel.......and even less legibility - PRND - energy flow etc.
Why is it that every bug fix equals the invention of another bug needing to be fixed ...with a reduction in clarity as a side dish !?