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That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 07:36
by Nagaman
Watching the HyperChange pre-presentation, I noticed the WA Tesla club asked about the massive ramp up in SA’s battery storage backup infrastructure.......apparently Horsley was instrumental in keeping Queensland lights on during the fires.
It’s quite amusing to note the complete camouflage job the conservatives have done on this escaping news.
Let’s keep the embarrassing exposure going for all our sakes.

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 08:13
by T1 Terry
Do you have a link to the connection between the Horsley battery and keeping the Qld grid up and functioning? I'd love to jam that down the throat of an antagonist on another forum. I think he is a PR spin doctor for the coal fired and gas fired power stations and anti renewable energy and battery back up.

T1 Terry

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 10:45
by brendon_m
For those interested here's the tesla live stream (starts at midday Perth time)
https://livestream.tesla.com/

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 14:31
by jonescg
Interesting first post on this thread... Hornsdale by the way.

Re: Cybertruck - the fanbois will eat it up. Everyone else will buy a Rivian.

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 14:59
by Nagaman
T1 Terry wrote:
Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 08:13
Do you have a link to the connection between the Horsley battery and keeping the Qld grid up and functioning? I'd love to jam that down the throat of an antagonist on another forum. I think he is a PR spin doctor for the coal fired and gas fired power stations and anti renewable energy and battery back up.

T1 Terry
Try this Terry https://youtu.be/EsrSFyxT7NI

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 15:02
by Nagaman
jonescg wrote:
Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 14:31
Interesting first post on this thread... Hornsdale by the way.

Yeah, don’t know where that came from.

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 15:06
by Nagaman
It has it’s own inbuilt ramp in the tailgate for a ATV which can plug into the bed and recharge.
Nobody will accuse you of being a ‘dedicated follower of (established) fashion’ .

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 17:14
by brendon_m
jonescg wrote:
Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 14:31
Re: Cybertruck - the fanbois will eat it up. Everyone else will buy a Rivian.
I'm not so sure, Rivian would have to sharpen their pencils a lot before they sell them. The tesla starts at $40,000usd and works up to $70k, the rivian is meant to start from $70,000usd

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 20:29
by jonescg
Yeah the price is pretty impressive. But impressive enough? Time will tell. The concept is growing on me I have to say.

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 20:40
by brendon_m
The biggest flaw I see is the sides of the tray. Its not exactly work friendly so I think it'll lose out on a lot of fleet/commercial customers and people who actually use their ute as a ute.
Also people don't like change, this looks different...

Also also, if the body panels are so tough how's it going to go with crumple zones and pedestrian safety etc?

Also, also, also "but it doesn't have a chassis so it's a soccer mums car and you can't take it off road"

Re: That truck

Posted: Sat, 23 Nov 2019, 09:17
by Rusdy
brendon_m wrote:
Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 20:40
"but it doesn't have a chassis so it's a soccer mums car and you can't take it off road"
No soccer mom would buy this :lol:

Kudos for the exoskeleton concept though. Maybe that's why it's cheap despite the exotic materials?

Re: That truck

Posted: Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 18:00
by Nagaman
I doubt it would pass crash testing requirements or even headlight standards without serious changes.

Re: That truck

Posted: Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 21:54
by antiscab
What if the crumple zones are all internal? That way you only have to slow the deceleration of the passenger compartment rather than the whole vehicle.

Re: That truck

Posted: Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 21:56
by brendon_m
Oooo, that's an interesting idea.

Re: That truck

Posted: Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 23:14
by antiscab
With the reduced mass, you could go a step further and have a resettable crumple zone.

Re: That truck

Posted: Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 06:27
by Nagaman
I can’t see any form of pedestrian safety in the design or materials used.

Re: That truck

Posted: Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 06:29
by jonescg

Re: That truck

Posted: Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 12:48
by Rusdy
Nagaman wrote:
Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 06:27
I can’t see any form of pedestrian safety in the design or materials used.
Is there ANY truck designed for pedestrian safety? :lol:

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 14:07
by boars
Rusdy wrote:
Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 12:48
Nagaman wrote:
Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 06:27
I can’t see any form of pedestrian safety in the design or materials used.
Is there ANY truck designed for pedestrian safety? :lol:
I know this is an old thread but this a million times.

I'm *still* seeing people harp on and on about pedestrian safety...

It's not like there's already a tonne of NEW vehicles on the road with massive front ends on them, like trucks, vans and the the like.
We've also had a recent upsurge of ridiculously huge american vehicles. I believe in Qld this is driven by the change to towing laws - you cannot upgrade suspension for increased towing capacity.

I honestly don't know if I'd rather be hit by a F650 or a Cybertruck but I can tell you it wont end well in either scenario.

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 15:26
by brendon_m
boars wrote:
Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 14:07
I honestly don't know if I'd rather be hit by a F650 or a Cybertruck but I can tell you it wont end well in either scenario.
Well in theory there's less chance of the Cybertruck hitting you with all the safety doodads and better braking...
In a f650 you're luckily if you get braking performance equivalent to a stick rubbing on the back wheel, gokart style.

Re: That truck

Posted: Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 16:56
by boars
brendon_m wrote:
Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 15:26
boars wrote:
Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 14:07
I honestly don't know if I'd rather be hit by a F650 or a Cybertruck but I can tell you it wont end well in either scenario.
Well in theory there's less chance of the Cybertruck hitting you with all the safety doodads and better braking...
In a f650 you're luckily if you get braking performance equivalent to a stick rubbing on the back wheel, gokart style.
Totally fair.

Disclaimer: I have a cybertruck preordered so I'm more than a little biased.

Prevention is better than a cure and avoiding accidents is definitely the way to go but not all can be avoided unfortunately.

If it wasn't for our towing restrictions I highly doubt we would be seeing such a surge in absurd vehicles

Re: That truck

Posted: Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 11:09
by roddilkes
jonescg wrote:
Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 14:31
Re: Cybertruck - the fanbois will eat it up. Everyone else will buy a Rivian.
Hey Chris, I have to come out of the closet, I'm a Tesla fanboi :geek:

Re: That truck

Posted: Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 11:12
by jonescg
You use an iPhone - it was clear from the start :D