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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by rhills » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 16:27

weber wrote:
Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 14:56
...When asked about warranty they said 12 months.
Que?

So that means that a replacement battery has a much shorter warranty than the one that comes with a new vehicle? Does that mean they could get away with putting cheap cells in a replacement battery module that crap themselves after 13 months?

I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with the feeble forays by mainstream ICE vehicle manufacturers into EVs. These half-hearted attempts do the EV concept more harm than good IMHO. I think it is extremely unlikely that I will buy my next vehicle from an ICE vehicle manufacturer.
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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by mikedufty » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 20:42

So 2 or 3 weeks for a battery to arrive from Japan in Nissan-speak is 7 months? I think they use a similar shipping calculator to Mitsubishi.
Last estimate on my charger arrival in Australia was 31 August, so I will give them a call tomorrow but don't have high hopes.

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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by PiMan » Sun, 02 Sep 2018, 17:33

rhills wrote:
Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 16:27
weber wrote:
Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 14:56
...When asked about warranty they said 12 months.
Que?

So that means that a replacement battery has a much shorter warranty than the one that comes with a new vehicle? Does that mean they could get away with putting cheap cells in a replacement battery module that crap themselves after 13 months?

I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with the feeble forays by mainstream ICE vehicle manufacturers into EVs. These half-hearted attempts do the EV concept more harm than good IMHO. I think it is extremely unlikely that I will buy my next vehicle from an ICE vehicle manufacturer.
Perhaps, but remember that warranties are not the end of the story for consumer rights. Australian Consumer Law requires that goods are of reasonable durability, and that would likely include an expectation that first party replacements and repairs are just as good as the original products.

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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by alexeiw123 » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 09:14

weber wrote:
Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 14:56
The new battery finally arrived from Japan and was replaced about a week ago. Hoorah! So we're back to new-car range of 130 km or more. The guessometer claimed 160 km when it left the workshop.

They couldn't tell us whether the replacement has the same old LMO chemistry or the newer NMC chemistry. When asked about warranty they said 12 months.
Fantastic news. How long did it take for the freight and install?

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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by Bryce » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 15:40

Just in passing for those looking to assess a secondhand Leaf. My 2011 Leaf has 9 bars left at 40,000km but still does 100km in summer and 80 in winter. Guess-o-meter is absolutely useless for knowing range on it though. Leaf-Spy very much more helpful.
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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by weber » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 16:01

alexeiw123 wrote:
Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 09:14
Fantastic news. How long did it take for the freight and install?
About 6 months.
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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by HeadsUp » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 18:19

weber wrote:
Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 14:56
The new battery finally arrived from Japan and was replaced about a week ago. Hoorah! So we're back to new-car range of 130 km or more. The guessometer claimed 160 km when it left the workshop.

They couldn't tell us whether the replacement has the same old LMO chemistry or the newer NMC chemistry. When asked about warranty they said 12 months.
I am happily astounded that a Car maker didnt try to worm their way out of warranty with every BS story under the sun.

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Re: 2nd Hand LEAF

Post by Pins » Wed, 20 Feb 2019, 09:33

PiMan I agree with your sentiment around the consumer rights. I have just asked this same question of a Nissan Dealer and they advised 12 month warranty for a battery back replaced under warranty. I did write back to them and suggest that surely Nissan would want to inspire confidence in its battery technology and more importantly, help out the LEAF owners with getting a reasonable sale price on the second hand market. Pretty risky paying $20k for a used LEAF when you could be up for another $20k (price from dealer) in a few years if the battery degrades or fails! So could cost you $40k over a few years! Nuts.

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