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http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit


battery warranty in the US anyway
"The advanced lithium-ion battery pack carries an industry-competitive warranty of 8 years or 100,000 miles. Under an expanded New Electric Vehicle Limited Warranty, Nissan will protect against capacity loss in LEAF batteries that fall below nine bars, of the available 12 bars displayed on the vehicle's battery capacity gauge, for the first five years or 60,000 miles in the United States, whichever comes first."


leaf catches up on imiev with regen "B" mode
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/nissa ... price-cut/

that is 1 thing I like about the imiev, it has really strong regen on "B" mode, good for gooseberry hill. with Leaf and volt, need to use the brake pedal to get the same effect.

in tech, never get gen 1, maybe gen 2, wait for gen 3
Nissan seems to be on gen 2 now.
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Now you just need the Tesla chick to run you up Gooseberry hill for the complete eV review Image
So the short answer is NO but the long answer is YES.
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I really wish I could have a regen mode where there is none at all at 0 throttle - I miss being able to coast....
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I know what you are saying.

I set up zero regen at zero accel pedal on suzi, but it is scary as thinks roll along too easy.

I guess the manufacturers are trying to mimic an auto trans 'pull'.
The i's regen from accel pedal stops at 17kmph and becomes the auto trans style push. Application of the foot brake then creates limited regen down to a few kmph, remembering the down side of PM vs Induction is that PM can't regen at low RPM while IM goes nearly to zero since slip when negative torque is selected means that the field actually rotates even when rotor is stationary.

Driving in C mode is best I find. At least that way regen is mostly brake pedal driven. (B mode is for fun)
Tipping to N from D gives no regen but does show that C is not applying much regen.

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Interesting that the EV1 had a highway mode with no accelerator pedal regen.

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There is a case for partial speed control not pure torque from the eccelerator pedal.
Pure 'no regen' coast does mean that your foot will need to move more often between pedals.
I'm not certain that folk without IM AC have felt truely free coasting ? To me it doesn't make for relaxed driving. FWIW Image
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I actually removed regen from reverse in the Vogue. It was a bit fiddly when reversing into the garage which has a ramp about halfway along then a caravan drawbar that I didn't want to hit. I've got to get within 200mm of the drawbar. No regen on reverse makes it easier for fine control.

I can "coast" as about 3% of my accelerator travel is my coast region. My pedal mapping now has 12% devoted to regen, 3% coast and 85% for go-faster. You really don't notice the missing 15% during take off. I guess it's about equivalent to linkage play in mechanical accelerators. I still do see the point in being able to kill regen entirely though. There is something slightly un-relaxing about having to hold the pedal just "so".

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My vectrix has 0 regen at no throttle below 70kmh, and *very* mild regen at 0 above (peaks at 0.3A @ 144v at 115kmh)

regen and friction brakes are triggered separately on the vectrix

speed and torque control are separate issues.

On the vectrix 50% throttle means torque is limited to 50% and so is speed.
If you happen to roll faster than "50%" current just falls to 0

I suppose I could use neutral in the iMiev for coasting, but it's such a transient thing...
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Just use 'C' mode in the i, I thnk you well warm to the easy driving it offers. Image
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i must remember not to get a nissan leaf until they have more direct / European power steering

imiev & volt seem to be drivers' cars
but the leaf is for the Japanese / Asian markets who like their steering light
this observation is agreed by Ben Collins (the Stig)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_4fvEwXros#t=1m20s


I shall wait for the honda Jazz/fit
hopefully i won't have static electric shocks. I used to get static shocks in my aunt's honda civic.
I get shocks from my imiev at the moment
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Static shocks are related to your clothing/footware not the vehicle.

unless you are still in training... Image


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http://www.wikihow.com/Get-out-of-a-Car ... lectricity

some solutions

typed in "static shocks car" into google & honda came up in the results
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/sho ... p?t=604881
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yeh I get zapped by my imiev as well - it must be the fabric used on the seats as it happens even when I'm bare foot
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another reason not to get a leaf
no thermal management system
hence battery degradation in Arizona & California heat

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-pa ... 491954.ece

http://www.plugincars.com/no-active-the ... -call.html

battery warranty reminds me of Goldstar brand.
they provided a really long warranty
while established / reliable brands don't bother cos they know that their product will last.
eg. Panasonic, Sony,
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http://insideevs.com/2013-nissan-leaf-r ... ld-system/

leaf owners, remember to use long life mode where possible.

time will tell if nissan engineers made the right choice; no thermal management system ... yet.
http://www.myfocuselectric.com/forum/vi ... f=14&t=923

http://elonmusktesla.wordpress.com/2013 ... city-loss/
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