Nissan LEAF Oz Promo!!!!!

Post by **photomac** » Sat, 17 Dec 2011, 07:46

dada !
Now it feels like Christmas! Nissan teasing with Australian add online
http://www.youtube.com/nissanleafaustralia
via facebook
http://www.facebook.com/nissanleafaustralia?sk=wall

enjoy all the extra clips too!

ps sorry the post is 5 hours late - I was dragged off ( willingly ) to a SEN meeting
http://sen.asn.au/

Website · Post by **htial** » Sat, 17 Dec 2011, 14:45

The ad's mostly the american one with an australian voice over and some driving around Australian roads... ...But all the extra stuff is nice...

Website · Post by **Simon** » Sat, 17 Dec 2011, 16:39

Santa.. all I want for Christmas is a Nissan Leaf!!

Post by **Johny** » Sun, 18 Dec 2011, 16:21

My garage could never look like that! There's no STUFF!
Yes, I like the car though.

Post by **photomac** » Sun, 18 Dec 2011, 17:04

I know what you mean !!! Note the oily's ICE maintenance draws centre back though.

Website · Post by **Simon** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 06:03

Well my dream of being able to afford to buy a Leaf has just been crushed.

Over on the Nissan Leaf Australia facebook page a RRP of $51,500 has been announced. http://www.facebook.com/nissanleafaustralia

I had been overly optimistic of a price under $40,000..

I did some price comparisons a while ago for the Leaf
UK $47319 AUD
2011 Canada SV 38,395.00 CAD = 36,907.80 AUD
US 2012 SV $35200 USD = $34,452.38 AUD
*edit* Looks like we are only going to get the top of the range model in Aus which bumps up the price by $1000.
Not to mention the kick in the guts is these prices are before any subsidies..

Website · Post by **htial** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 13:37

Simon, I don't think we should be comparing our price to the US or Canadian prices, because as far as I'm aware Australia will be getting the Japanese "G" model of the LEAF. http://ev.nissan.co.jp/LEAF/GRADE/sim.html

When you compare the Australian price with the Japanese price there isn't much difference. The Japanese site also shows the price before any tax breaks or gov' discounts.

While I'm still not impressed with the Australian price, I did have an idea that it was going to be around as much as it is because of how hight the Japanese price is.

Post by **bladecar** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 14:33

Hi,

I guess if it's all about the price of a small car vs the Leaf, then whoever is going for the small car will find the Leaf price impossible to pay.

However, for the many more who might buy a a medium or larger car just because that's what they usually buy, those people should seriously consider an electric car.

If you look at the price of holdens and fords once you bypass the entry level, you get leaf/imiev/electron prices for a whole lot of maintenance/insurance/fuel costs and without the satisfaction of sitting in silence at the lights listening to the idling motors and feeling the puffs of exhaust ruffling you shins (ok, I'm including electric bikes here).

For the adventurous, I don't know in what way the main-stream manufacturers are building in income streams (like trying very hard to control consistent services, charging for electronic services, whatever they have thought of) but I want to think that the Electrons I'm buying are going to allow me to minimise servicing costs and attention. The latest one will have similar performance to the Leaf, I understand, but it will be a straight-forward car without undue gizmos.

Post by **photomac** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 15:03

The pricing I anticipated was $45k to $55k. It is an early adopters price. Nissan's other two plants are yet to add to the cost reduction. To convert to similar is about $40k for DIY so a premium of $51k, as with Blade, for warranty and peace of mind is fair. Agree too about other savings possible. No doubt Blade will feel the pinch

The huge advantage Blade has is the elegant simplicity. Less to go wrong. That is my concern of the LEAF that it is all vey nice until 20 years down the road and parts become - well - scarce. But then - the shell is a shell is a shell and DIYers will rehouse lol

Adding by edit . . .

Canadian Price announced last week - CAD$38400 - now I am not sure if that includes tax. That's AU$37000

Website · Post by **htial** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 16:57

I just got an email about the Tesla Model S pricing and it makes the LEAF look expensive and under developed...

Post by **Johny** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 17:18

Yes but Tesla have been a little tricky with the Model 'S' in that the standard battery pack option isn't the long range pack (from what I have seen on their website). Once it hits the deck in Oz what will it really be? Pricing, options?

Post by **coulomb** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 18:28

But isn't the smallest Tesla S pack larger than the Leaf's?

The Telsa S seems to come in large, larger, and enormous (pack energy). I don't recall specific numbers.

Website · Post by **htial** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 18:30

Here's the link from the email I got...

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/optio ... 11_12_news

Website · Post by **htial** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 18:34

It's this options information that is missing from all the LEAF and i-MiEV information that we're getting from their own sites. Tesla are laying it our straight and clear. To get any info about the LEAF you've really got to dig through the Japanese site. The Australian and US Nissan sites don't give any info.

Post by **Richo** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 20:44

Simon wrote: Well my dream of being able to afford to buy a Leaf has just been crushed.

You mean the body styling wasn't dream crushing enough

I'd rather have your car anyday over a leaf

Post by **photomac** » Wed, 21 Dec 2011, 20:53

Thanks htial for Tesla link!!! Bookmarked that one

Website · Post by **Simon** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 01:49

Richo wrote:
Simon wrote: Well my dream of being able to afford to buy a Leaf has just been crushed.

You mean the body styling wasn't dream crushing enough

I'd rather have your car anyday over a leaf

Thanks Richo!

I think the body styling is pretty good apart from rear.

Post by **Rattrap** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 02:28

I love the look of the Leaf but yer way over my wallet size. totally gutted but not surprised. Maybe in 5+ years they may come down in price some.....

Post by **woody** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 04:23

coulomb wrote: But isn't the smallest Tesla S pack larger than the Leaf's?

The Telsa S seems to come in large, larger, and enormous (pack energy). I don't recall specific numbers.

Large = 40 kWh
Larger = 60 kWh
Enormous = 85 kWh

15A 240 V power point = about 3.5kW so you'd want a fast charger...

US $47500 before credit looks awesome.

Website · Post by **Simon** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 05:20

Woody the Tesla Model S is $57400 USD for the base model before tax credits.
I guess that will translate to about $100,000 AUD then?

Post by **Rattrap** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 14:38

How much is a kidney worth on the black market, barely used, been a non drinker for the last 25 years.....

Post by **Johny** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 14:51

Rattrap wrote: How much is a kidney worth on the black market, barely used, been a non drinker for the last 25 years.....

Keeping in mind that this forum is accessible worldwide - you may get an answer...

Website · Post by **htial** » Thu, 22 Dec 2011, 15:01

If only we could sell our blood and other body fluids...

So much of it just goes to waist at the moment... >_<

Post by **PlanB** » Sat, 24 Dec 2011, 23:26

Big ain't beautiful looking at those Tesla model S numbers.
40kwh pack 160mi range = 156w/km
60kwh pack 250mi range = 163w/km
85kwh pack 200mi range = 177w/km
for a 125% increase in battery they get only an 88%increase in range.

Post by **antiscab** » Sun, 25 Dec 2011, 00:48

112.5% more battery = 88% more range

the 85kwh option has more power, which may increase energy usage if driven harder