Need Help with J1772 wiring. Gelco EVSE ??

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Need Help with J1772 wiring. Gelco EVSE ??

Post by goingbush » Fri, 16 Mar 2018, 18:59

I have converted my LandRover and have no problems charging it at home , I simply have a 15Amp 3 pin plug connected to a J1772 on the car .
There are no smarts in the car, The back of the J1772 simply connects to the 3.3Kw TC Charger , with a 240V Relay on the AC side to tell the BMS when the charger is live. It has a proximity resistor .

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There are some Tesla destination chargers nearby so I bought a Gelco GS1018 http://www.gelcoservices.com.au/gelco_e ... ehicle.htm
This plugs into the Tesla charge cable on one end , has a black box (EVSE ??) in the middle & J1772 plug on the other end . When I connect to a Tesla charger the green Tesla Light animates & the Power LED on EVSE comes on but is as far as I get .
So can someone please advise what I need to make my EVSE function .

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Post by goingbush » Fri, 16 Mar 2018, 19:02

PS if you missed the build on my car, for now its here http://www.goingbush.com/ptev.html
, I am planning on putting it up on AEVA though.

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Post by antiscab » Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 10:14

Diode and resistors from memory.
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Post by goingbush » Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 20:05

Thanks , have just installed as per EVTV circuit diagram,
Bob at Gelco emailed me another version of same resistor /diode circuit, Have installed , will report back with results.

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Post by reecho » Sat, 17 Mar 2018, 20:24

The Tesla charger needs to be set to legacy mode.... Dip switch 2 inside it...

The 882 Ohm resistor and 1N4148 diode will work on most Charging points, but the new 3 phase Tesla HPWC's are fussy.

You would of been better off to use a type 2 socket on the lightweight.. It's becoming more common by the day..

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Post by goingbush » Sun, 18 Mar 2018, 06:20

Thanks Reecho , Type 2 being the Tesla connector , right ???
Im prepared to change the charge socket if I need to , ....... EV Range is only a minor inconvenience, I have a workaround for that :)

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Post by jonescg » Sun, 18 Mar 2018, 21:01

Sketch Coleman is powering an inverter from his 4x4 battery (has another big battery in parallel) which he uses to charge his electric supermoto. He needs to have the vehicle running to keep the power up to the alternator, but at least it's possible to charge trackside when there aren't points available.

A type-2 inlet would be a worthwhile investment.
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Post by reecho » Mon, 19 Mar 2018, 17:52

goingbush wrote:
Sun, 18 Mar 2018, 06:20
Thanks Reecho , Type 2 being the Tesla connector , right ???
Im prepared to change the charge socket if I need to , ....... EV Range is only a minor inconvenience, I have a workaround for that :)

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Yeah......indeedy.

Go type 2 moving forward. Type 1 will disappear depending on how stubborn the japanese manufacturers are... :-)

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Post by reecho » Mon, 19 Mar 2018, 17:54

Oh and for something a bit more technical you could whack in an AVC2 module...

http://modularevpower.com/Active_Vehicl ... opment.htm

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Post by goingbush » Mon, 19 Mar 2018, 19:05

The diode and resistor trick worked, Plugged into 3 phase Tesla Destination charger & LandRover now charges at the usual slow rate of 3.3kw (as indicated on Zeva BMS) . Have also ordered AVC2 module.

Chris, I have a 180Amp alternator in the Iveco but only a 2kw inverter installed , meybe I should invest in a bigger inverter . hmm good idea.

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Post by tidalev » Wed, 12 Sep 2018, 15:48

Hi goingbush
I am looking at using same charging setup, can you tell me where you sourced your 3.3 TC charger and what model you went with and were there any issues communicating with the zeva BMS? and did you end up using the AVC2 module? any issues with that?

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Post by brunohill » Wed, 12 Sep 2018, 19:36

Where are those Tesla chargers near Yarrawonga????

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Post by goingbush » Mon, 12 Nov 2018, 08:09

tidalev wrote:
Wed, 12 Sep 2018, 15:48
Hi goingbush
I am looking at using same charging setup, can you tell me where you sourced your 3.3 TC charger and what model you went with and were there any issues communicating with the zeva BMS? and did you end up using the AVC2 module? any issues with that?
Sorry for late reply, my account was broken.

I got the TC charger direct from manafacturer in China , made to suit my pack voltage & WITHOUT CAN interface , since I have hears so many tales of woe about CAN incompatibility. Works PERFECT with ZEVA BMS using the manual hookup method . No need for CAN there at all.
I bought AVC2 module but didn't end up needing it.

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Post by goingbush » Mon, 12 Nov 2018, 08:09

brunohill wrote:
Wed, 12 Sep 2018, 19:36
Where are those Tesla chargers near Yarrawonga????
At a winery in Rutherglen !

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Post by reecho » Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 19:25

goingbush wrote:
Mon, 12 Nov 2018, 08:09

I got the TC charger direct from manafacturer in China , made to suit my pack voltage & WITHOUT CAN interface , since I have hears so many tales of woe about CAN incompatibility. Works PERFECT with ZEVA BMS using the manual hookup method . No need for CAN there at all.
Note that the ZEVA BMS does support the ability to connect to TC chargers over CAN bus for direct control.

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Post by ruchita » Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 18:40

I am taking a gander at utilizing same charging setup, would you be able to reveal to me where you sourced your 3.3 TC charger and what show you ran with and were there any issues speaking with the zeva BMS? what's more, did you end up utilizing the AVC2 module? any issues with that?

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Post by jonescg » Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 16:19

I have the AVC2 unit as well - I hope to install it in the Prelude shortly. Main goal is to allow charging from Type-2 connectors in public, but it also incorporates a relay which can be used as an interlock which prevents driving off while still plugged in :o
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Post by Bryce » Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 17:53

Hi there-AVC2 works well for both of those functions. Been in my Berlingo EV for 2-3 years now. Best function BTW is the lockout one: WAY easier than setting up micro switches on filler flap etc.
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Post by jonescg » Tue, 10 Sep 2019, 11:38

Hi Don, can you please show me what your wiring diagram was for the J1772 protocol? I've got an AVC2 in the Prelude but the success rate with some charge points so far is pretty poor.
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