Toyota RAV4 - EV ? Any Thoughts ?

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Post by EVFAN » Fri, 01 Jul 2011, 03:15

Hi all,

Well I have decided that the Jumbuck is "just not safe at any speed" as Ralph Nader said many years ago. I have been look at the Toyota RAV4 3 door. They have an ANCAP of 4 and look very cool. Just the right size and plenty of room for batteries in the back and room for luggage. I would make it into a 2 seater. The have a relatively low tare weight as well.The only concern I have is the 4WD aspect. 4WD may be a heavy source of power loss. I am wondering if anyone has had any experience in converting a 4WD to EV ? Maybe I could make it 2WD and remove the tail shaft and associated diff ?

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Post by Rattrap » Fri, 01 Jul 2011, 15:10

I was talking to the guys from Tesla when they were in Tasmania for the Targa, he mentioned that Tesla was going into some sort of partnership with Toyota to produce a Rav4 EV. So if they think its a good idea then go for it!

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Post by Richo » Fri, 01 Jul 2011, 21:09

They already did a rav4.
where is it now? Still a prototype in the back garage of toyota collecting dust.
Why would they need Telsa to re-do it? Toyota like hand outs.

So the short answer is NO but the long answer is YES.
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Post by KDRYAN » Sat, 02 Jul 2011, 11:37

RAV4's were produced in a 4x2 version. Also Toyota manufactured and released a pure ev version in the US

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Post by T1 Terry » Sun, 03 Jul 2011, 03:09

I think the idea of a vehicle manufacturer teaming up with an electric vehicle manufacturer is the way of the future. Too steep a learning curve for a manufacturer who's whole strategy was based around an ICE but an electric vehicle manufacturer with access to body design engineers and fabricators could finally make a realistic electric vehicle at a price that is compedative with a conventional vehicle. Little toy electric shopping trolleys are fine but to compete in the market place it needs to be a vehicle the whole family would be comfortable in.
The Rav 4 4 x4 with 2 electric drive motors would be an interesting vehicle, I wonder if it will ever be made.

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Post by photomac » Wed, 06 Jul 2011, 17:50

Yes,   we can.   Image
Hyundai Kona 64 v1 Sept 2019 onward. 00016 up to 3850+
Mitsubishi PHEV v1 Apr 2016 to Aug 2019 14500 to 72000km
Nissan LEAF v1.0 Nov 2013 to Apr 2016 00035 to 36000km

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Post by photomac » Wed, 06 Jul 2011, 18:17

I've been contemplating the same. Actually had to replace my old car some 3 years ago (someone ran into my old trusty) and bought a RAV4 in anticipation of EV conversion. Now that it's close to jumping in I have weighed up many options.

I am waiting for the Nissan LEAF pricing to determine which way I jump.

I've looked at small to large cars, sports and old classics.
Conclusion - they can cost a lot of money for a decent range. My lifestyle with work/family/home spread all over the place I need about 100 to 150km range. So a good host vehicle is important. RAV4 is good but uses about 50% more battery for same range as a 2008 Honda Civic VTiL
Mazda 3 is a good choice too, then the Mazda6 is a better as it is longer with similar height and width and greater carrying capacity. Easiest is a cab-chassis ute. Which would double as a trailer replacement Image

Driving conditions will determine real mileage but these are the average estimations I have calculated (using DC and Thundersky batteries )

Honda Civic sedan - 16.8 to 18.1 kWh/100km
Toyota Corolla sedan - 18.0 to 19.7 kWh/100km
Toyota Camry sedan - 18.8 to 22.9 kWh/100km
Toyota RAV4 4dr - 20.6 to 24.6 kWh/100km
Nissan Silvia - 18.1 to 23.5 kWh/100km (confirmed by real world conversion)
Nissan Tiida - 16.3 to 18.0 kWh/100km (similar size to Nissan LEAF)
Mazda 3 Sedan - 17.4 to 19.8 kWh/100km
Mazda 6 Hatch - 18.4 to 23.8 kWh/100km
Mazda MX5 - 16.8 to 21.3 kWh/100km
Mazda RX8 - 19.5 to 31.1 kWh/100km (realistically about 19.5 to 22, high end based on thirsty ICE)
Holden Commodore - 24.5 to 27.5 kWh/100km

Hope this helps
Yes,   we can.   Image
Hyundai Kona 64 v1 Sept 2019 onward. 00016 up to 3850+
Mitsubishi PHEV v1 Apr 2016 to Aug 2019 14500 to 72000km
Nissan LEAF v1.0 Nov 2013 to Apr 2016 00035 to 36000km

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Post by drgrieve » Wed, 13 Jul 2011, 03:09

See this post for a spreadsheet with different cars drag coefficients.

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