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54v super cap detail

Posted: Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 17:32
by phred01
Found on Alibaba 54v supercapacitor The module size of 54V 150F is 24×30×16cm cost per module $590 usd
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Wonder how many does one need to make 7kwhr unit

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 19:47
by weber
We can see "3.0 Wh" written on the capacitors. Therefore the pictured module can store 20 x 3 = 60 Wh. So to store 7 kWh you'd need 7000 / 60 = 117 modules.

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 07:14
by Adverse Effects
phred01 wrote:
Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 17:32
Wonder how many does one need to make 7kwhr unit
weber wrote:
Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 19:47
We can see "3.0 Wh" written on the capacitors. Therefore the pictured module can store 20 x 3 = 60 Wh. So to store 7 kWh you'd need 7000 / 60 = 117 modules.
LOL $69030 for 7kwh + shipping + GST + luxury tax + import fees and if its Alibaba you look at the most expensive price they have listed and then add some

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 09:24
by Rusdy
You'd be better off with the super awesome Arvio supercapacitor! It's cheap, it's here, it's (contentiously) proven!! :lol:

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 10:16
by Johny
Rusdy wrote:
Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 09:24
You'd be better off with the super awesome Arvio supercapacitor! It's cheap, it's here, it's (contentiously) proven!! :lol:
isn't the contrast interesting.😏

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 13:39
by phred01
Rusdy wrote:
Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 09:24
You'd be better off with the super awesome Arvio supercapacitor! It's cheap, it's here, it's (contentiously) proven!! :lol:
Been reading following threads
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5486&start=100#p67056
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-r ... ?t=2707005
Until some1 cuts open Arvio box and has a Captain Cook many believe it is actually a battery!
A quick calculation on the back of a envelope 0.24 * 0.3 * 0.16= 0.01152 m^3
so 117 would need a cabinet of 0.01152* 117= 1.35 m^3 to house them
Dose any1 know the volume of arvio?

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 14:42
by Richo
Adverse Effects wrote:
Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 07:14
LOL $69030 for 7kwh + shipping + GST + luxury tax + import fees
Caps are duty free.
Customs+DHL/Fedex would be $108 under $10k.
Can't remember what it is over $10k I think it was like $180.

AUD$108k + shipping
Seafreight about $1,500.
So $110k at your door.
Awesome.
I'll take 5. :roll:

So LOL is right :lol:

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 08:09
by HeadsUp
I have no idea what these price up like in comparison to your miracle $110,000 ones above , however watching interviews with their CEO are a bit more credible.

He doesnt claim these as a battery replacement but as a complementary system to work with Lithium XX batteries to extend life and improve efficiencies particularly from Regen.

Its not just "proposed technology" but is being manufactured and marketed worldwide ( made in Germany and Estonia ).

https://www.skeletontech.com/ultracapacitor-technology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ2Eo6wl5r0

They are being used in truck and mining machine hybrids , satellites and by NASA.

They ALSO have ultracapacitor truck start batteries . how the heck do they do that ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQLsGzCqHuk

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 10:46
by Adverse Effects
how about these beauties
2.85V @ 3150F in something smaller than a can of soda


Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 12:28
by HeadsUp
I am not super keen on youtube videos that w@nk and waffle for 30 minutes on a topic that i could describe in 90 seconds but ...they are yanks.

https://4xspower.com/tag/supercapacitors/

That is the supplier but i am yet to find a credible test that shows what they can do , must be one somewhere .

Affordable viable Supercaps may not be far away .

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 15:00
by Adverse Effects
HeadsUp wrote:
Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 12:28
That is the supplier but i am yet to find a credible test that shows what they can do , must be one somewhere .
owwww sorry i was laughing at there claims , 3150F in something that small?? not likely (yet)

Re: 54v super cap detail

Posted: Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 15:22
by HeadsUp
Adverse Effects wrote:
Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 15:00
HeadsUp wrote:
Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 12:28
That is the supplier but i am yet to find a credible test that shows what they can do , must be one somewhere .
owwww sorry i was laughing at there claims , 3150F in something that small?? not likely (yet)
maybe they dropped off the "u" in microfarad to save weight..