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CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Wed, 28 Jul 2010, 15:05
by polo-ev
This buy has now been finalized.

CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Wed, 28 Jul 2010, 21:48
by roddilkes
For those of you interested it is worth contacting me also as I have a bulk order currently in process and have been importing CALB batteries for some time now.

This is deja vu for me as the same thing happened when I started importing Thundersky, a bunch of non-profit (or rather loss-leader) vendors appeared. I have list prices but will do the not-for-profit thing if people are prepared to wait. BTW I offer alot of experience and back up to boot.

So far, in my experience the average lead time on a CALB order is four months. Products appear to be good but the lead time is not.

http://www.ev-power.com.au/-Sky-Energy-Batteries-.html

CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Thu, 29 Jul 2010, 01:25
by polo-ev
I am not a loss-leader/non-profit vendor nor do I have any commercial interest in importing batteries for EVs at all.

I am a private individual who is in the final stages of building a EV.
I have organised this one-off bulk buy of CALB batteries for my own purposes & am happy to include anyone else who chooses to take part in this bulk buy.

CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Thu, 29 Jul 2010, 03:20
by roddilkes
Fair Enough, I will take you at your word.

People should still consider some things before they enter into bulk buy agreements:

- CALB does't offer a factory warranty. In my business I have to take that on.
- CALB has a significant lead time on orders at present due to large orders from Chinese EV manufacturers and some other issues. The EV enthusiast market is very small for a company like this though exports are possibly better margins for them.
- While up front US$ prices of bulk orders may appear attractive there are often additional costs such as transport and import duties which can add up.
- Guessing at AUD/USD exchange rates is tricky for Australian buyers and a total nightmare for resellers.
- My gross margin is 10-15% which is entirely reasonable for the service I provide. By purchasing from a vendor such as EV Power you enable a small business to grow instead of undercutting it for a possibly small personal saving.
- We have a wealth of experience with LiFePO4 batteries.

If you are considering purchasing please at least give me the chance to quote. I am sure my compatriots who sell Thundersky would agree.

CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Thu, 29 Jul 2010, 05:47
by EV2Go
roddilkes wrote: - CALB does't offer a factory warranty. In my business I have to take that on.

- My gross margin is 10-15% which is entirely reasonable for the service I provide.
What type and length of warranty do you offer for the entirely reasonable $1000-$1500 margin? (on $10,000 order)

I couldn't see any warranty stated on the EVPower - CALB page. A vague forum say so doesn't hold much cred in a court if an issue arose.

Not trying to sh*t stir in the slightest, just wanting to see it in writing before considering purchasing options.

CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Thu, 29 Jul 2010, 16:43
by roddilkes
I will post an official document on the website soon.

What is your name EV2Go?
What is your application?
Have you approached me for a quotation?

CALB Buy - Closed

Posted: Thu, 29 Jul 2010, 17:16
by EV2Go
roddilkes wrote: I will post an official document on the website soon.

What is your name EV2Go?
What is your application?
Have you approached me for a quotation?
I am building an electric trike (250v Kostov 11" - Soliton1 controller) , planning on running 250v-300v, 40-60Ah.

No haven't approached anyone for a quote at the moment, I won't know what space / weight I will have to play with until I get the trike just about completed. I have a hard and fast weight restriction of 450kgs all up which I can't exceed.

Definately planning on lithium, highly likely will be SE (although need more energy density than SE can deliver, but may have to settle for SE anyway).

Physical pack size is extremely important. Trying to build the chassis to suit the maximum size possible without it looking dicky to leave my options open, but still struggling to make it big enough.

Like polo-ev I also was contemplating joining a group buy when I am ready for the batteries to keep costs down. Seems like just about every day this project is blowing out by a few more thousand.