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Post by Canberra32 » Sun, 25 Nov 2012, 02:54

Hey guys and gals its annoying me again.

I'm thinking of a side project at the moment of a large Chopper style electric cruiser.
A sit back and relax ride that crosses the comfort of a chopper/Harley style bike but with more of a Tron feel to it.
No sides like a bike and it will still lean but with a full windscreen that swoops the whole way over the top as a roof.
Basically a door less car squeezed to the width of a bike just a little sexier.

I use to ride a ninja and I also had a 1500 intruder and I found that the intruder though 300kg was actually much more stable to ride because of the very low center of gravity. If there was no wind you diddnt even need to put your feet down at the lights.
Though the EV version would only come in at the 200kg mark.

What are people's thoughts on this sort of thing?
How many of you would consider this sort of ev?

Because I have designed the frame in CAD means the tube cutter can pump out many the same and I have to make a mould to make the body so in theory I could put together kits quite cheap.
Sofar minus the labour cost my material cost is 7k should i choose to go ahead and that's everything bar the gas in my welder...
I don't know I just want to know is it the sort of thing people might want? Either I build a one off with a cheap mould or I put a few more bucks into the moulds and can reproduce...

I'm back n forth in my head over it can someone slap sense into me please :)

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Post by Simon » Sun, 25 Nov 2012, 03:26


This sort of thing would be my dream motorcycle!
I think building an EV motorcycle from the ground up would become more than just a side project and take all your time and lots of money. You are crazy! Image

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Post by BigMouse » Sun, 25 Nov 2012, 03:56

I've always liked that idea for a motorcycle. Weather protection, motorcycle parking, and even better efficiency. Would be cool.

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Post by Canberra32 » Sun, 25 Nov 2012, 10:36

Simon wrote:
This sort of thing would be my dream motorcycle!
I think building an EV motorcycle from the ground up would become more than just a side project and take all your time and lots of money. You are crazy! Image


Yeah seen this one but as a bike rider I can tell you the gyroscopes take the fun out :(

And it is a side project :)
My main hush hush project takes most of the time :) but a few things I have to wait on others so it stalls sometimes.
The side project will take me 3months max and would be rolling ready for motor and component install on Xmas holls :)

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Post by Canberra32 » Sun, 25 Nov 2012, 10:50

There has been some awesome advances for the amateur car builder lately :)
There is a place near me that all I do is send them the CAD 3D model of the frame and their laser tube notcher not only cuts the parts perfectly but label every part and end so even a monkey can put it together :)
And when it comes to a fiberglass body forget about it ;) that's my real gift :) I can even do it the old school way by clay modelling it then having it 3D scanned and then machine the plug :)
Or for that I think I could build full scale clay and mould straight off it :)
Or for even more old school I could English wheel it out of aluminium :)
While the electric theory on the I depth level may need to be palmed off to more qualified when it comes to the fabrication side of things I got my marbles all in one chicken :)

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Post by Canberra32 » Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 13:54

Come on guy up the feedback !!!!
I have a big chunky cruiser sitting in my workshop that is getting edgy as its last days draw near...
I would like to Conway if I'm a crazy idiot before a turn it into a pile off bits :)
My grinder hand is getting itchy :)

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Post by Canberra32 » Tue, 27 Nov 2012, 20:07

What dose the volt have to do with a large electric cruiser bike?
And if you are referring to the gyro cycle while its by no means a new concept and I do applaud the engineering as has been the case in the more I depth info on the thing there are two things that keep popping up.
One motorbike riders say where is the fun in a untippable motor bike.
Two the gyros consume more power than you save by running one less tire.
I don't mind this bike I just hate the shape of the body and the fact that you can't lean and throw it into a corner. I would rather a car if that's the case
I got no issue with the volt other than the icv I could build for the same price I would rather build one myself :)

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Post by Richo » Tue, 27 Nov 2012, 21:06

One word: AKIRA

So all up perhaps ~$20k+ including batt and motor etc
Dunno...
Bike enthisuasts are more likely to buy a light fast machine.
Using a custom frame means it won't be much cheaper than a car conversion.
It would put it a limited market.
You know what they say: if you build it ...
So the short answer is NO but the long answer is YES.
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Post by Canberra32 » Wed, 28 Nov 2012, 02:38

A new bike cost 20+ so not too fussed about the 20k mark
But that 7k was for all parts including battery. It's about 3days to make components and 1to assemble so labour would not be 13k

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Post by Canberra32 » Wed, 28 Nov 2012, 02:41

When you get all brackets and tubing later cut it only takes a few hours to weld up a full frame.
The magic of CAD mock up :)
I'm not the kind of fabricator who drags the hours out to charge more...

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Post by Canberra32 » Wed, 28 Nov 2012, 03:59

Well with a little bit of messing around my friends with a CNC flat bed router have sorted 2.4x1.2m 3D ball milling at 150mm deep so cruiser shell gets cut up in 4 pieces basically the bike will be a right and left half with a console separate so only 3 moulds :) hopefully will strip the parts off the shadow this weekend to cad the mounting points all up :)
Tube notcher sent me samples which were a nice surprise :) it's amassing how when laser cut they nearly need filler rod at all :) just a perfect tig fusion weld a BAM no warping or shrinkage :)

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Post by ChrisRider » Tue, 11 Dec 2012, 18:05

You will find if you set up this type of bicycle for conversion, that it will be very heavy and not economical when you are pedalling. The tyres would be too thick, the crank set would have to be too heavy. So once your battery runs out, your in for a painful ride home.

Also, you will not get as much speed from it, and battery life will be affected, compared to a proper set up electric bicycle.

If you are looking for a hot motorbike looking e bike, the Reef Bikes Predator is the way to go, check out the crazy specs on it.

It may be what your looking for, looks hot and performs hotter

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Post by Canberra32 » Tue, 11 Dec 2012, 19:47

Um no pedalling no you misunderstand.

I use to ride a Suzuki 1500!!! Intruder
It's the model before the bullivard.

The same as a Harley or chopper.

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Post by Canberra32 » Tue, 11 Dec 2012, 19:57

What part of 30kw+ maybe closer to a 150hp DC 200kg cruiser are people not getting?
My real Suzuki only got 200ks to a tank if I drove it like a wuss

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