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New Blade Electron with New TM4 Powertrain

Post by woody » Wed, 06 Jul 2011, 14:46

Blade Electric Vehicles has a new model (Mark VI?) Electron Deep Green

Azure Dynamics is out, TM4 is in.

Pricing on the website is $47K, or $52K for a long range 2 seater.

BEV got an unlimited production license last year
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Post by photomac » Wed, 06 Jul 2011, 15:47

It's terrific to see the progress! But the competition didn't want it at the Melbourne Motor show I believe -
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-ne ... 1gzwj.html

Don't know why?
I couldn't find any pics of the latest version either :(
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Post by Tritium_James » Mon, 11 Jul 2011, 22:55

So much for the 100% Australian drivetrain...

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Post by antiscab » Mon, 11 Jul 2011, 23:35

did BEV approach tritium at all?

I wonder how much cheaper the TM4 was for them to justify looking past the lack of Australian content......

They could even have done a sport model (make use of the extra power).

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Post by coulomb » Tue, 12 Jul 2011, 01:28

As of 7/11/2011, it still says at the bottom of the home page

"During 2010 and 2011 Blade will achieve a number of local and world firsts in BEV design and manufacture, including the first EV with NCM lithium ion batteries and an Australian designed and built motor controller." [ emphasis mine ]

[ Edit: pasted complete quote; linked to BEV home page ]
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Post by coulomb » Tue, 12 Jul 2011, 03:59

Apparently NCM stands for Lithium Nickel Cobalt Manganese - Li(NiCoMn)O2.
Tri-element cells which combine slightly improved safety (better than Cobalt oxide) with lower cost without compromising the energy density but with slightly lower voltage. Different manufacturers may use different proportions of the three constituent elements, in this case Ni, Co and Mn.
From about three quarters down this page: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithiumS.htm .
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Post by bladecar » Tue, 19 Jul 2011, 21:16

I'm buying blade cars and they have tritium controllers. Image

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Post by coulomb » Wed, 20 Jul 2011, 04:34

bladecar wrote: I'm buying blade cars and they have Tritium controllers. Image

Wow, I didn't realise.

When they come, perhaps you could bring one to the AEVA meeting? I'm sure there would be plenty of interest.

Also, it would be great if one of them could make it to the Brisbane AEVA EV Festival in October.
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Post by bladecar » Wed, 20 Jul 2011, 14:03

Hi,

They won't arrive for 2 or 3 weeks but I do intend to drive one to the Brisbane AEVA meeting and check it out.

I'll also get one to the EV Festival if I get the paperwork right. I'm a member but I haven't paid any money. Not sure of the best way how.

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Post by coulomb » Thu, 21 Jul 2011, 16:04

bladecar wrote: I'm buying Blade cars and they have Tritium controllers. Image

Well, that's interesting. According to Tritium James at the AEVA meeting last night, Tritium have sold only one controller to Blade. Presumably they evaluated it but decided to go with something else.
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Post by bladecar » Fri, 22 Jul 2011, 14:36

Hi all,

It was true when I said it but:

I guess I spoke too soon. Since these cars are the Mk 6 version, things have been changeable and so, yes, they will have TM4 systems in them. Ross Blade seems to be very impressed with them, and he builds the cars. He says it's the motors which have a particular advantage.

I'm simply a customer to that company so I'm thinking maybe Tritium should talk to them and find out just what they need in the future? (if they haven't already done so).

I got the impression that there will be a great many TM4's around in the future and so spares will be easy to find.

On the great "I believe in climate change and this is what we're doing" VS "I believe in climate change but we know you don't want to spend any money" debate, aren't Germany brilliant for getting in there and doing it, years ahead of anyone else.   Image
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Post by Squiggles » Sat, 23 Jul 2011, 04:13

"aren't Germany brilliant for getting in there and doing it"

Yes they are but it is easy when your nearest neighbour can sell you as much energy as you desire, so they have a low risk. Unfortunately for Australia we have to do it alone. If the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine and Bob Brown's loonies have shut down all the coal power stations we might just have some problems.

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Post by bladecar » Sat, 23 Jul 2011, 04:37

Well, we'll have some significant cost here but with solar panels, solar hot water, rechargeable batteries and electric cars, our cost of living is going down.

Now to avoid spending our lowered cost of living on silly things   Image
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