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Post by Johny » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 16:51

Hi Kurt and welcome to the forum.
I reckon there is nothing lost by approaching whomeever can grant you permission at the train station. I agree that it would be risky to plug in without their knowledge but it could work out to be good publicity for them and may even result in an EVSE being placed there if it all goes well.

So I think you have nothing to lose and a fair bit to gain by asking.
If things went really, really well you might even find they let you stay plugged in unless they need the outlet and unplug and store the cord for you of that need arises.

Public transport - electric cars - pretty symbiotic really.


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Post by acmotor » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 17:15

Kurt, this may be a top down request. IMHO

Perhaps the only person with suitable authority (and not likely to say no) is the State politician for the area that that train station is in.
Rail is State and if the MP is not the minister for transport then they will bat on your behalf.

The train station janitor, station master, an employee of Qld rail etc may say yes, but they do not have the authority to do so. If asked they may cite OHS or insurance or accounting as brick walls.

The MP can exercise all sorts of directive powers and require the establishment of policy. They can demolish the above brick walls.
If the MP is EV friendly that is even beter.

The saving grace may be if Qld rail already has an 'EV charging policy'. But that would be expecting too much.
edit: do ask about one first as often the lack of one prompts your approval process.

You are right not to just plug in, particularly in a public location. It could turn out badly. The 'get away with it' croud may think otherwise.

Remember, the key is that the authority to charge must be given by someone with the authority to give that authority. Typically starting with the person who pays the power bill.

If you go through the process, it will benefit all EV owners and maybe help an EV park and ride option, that sort of thing.

15A GPO is good, you will be able to use 3.3kW charger if you get one at some time. Image
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Post by weber » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 18:34

Hey acmotor. I just saw the eJerryCan (TM). Love it. Image
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Post by acmotor » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 18:59

Cheers. Image
Yeah, that 1.8kWh can make all the difference !

eJerryCans are perhaps a good case for low cycle number high density cells ?
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Post by jonescg » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 19:04

And cells which don't mind being kept at high states of charge for long periods of time. I wonder if a 5 amp hour, 360 volt battery could achieve the same thing in a matter of minutes?
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Post by acmotor » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 19:42

Connecting in via the CHAdeMO would then be required. I'd be interested in that.
Still waiting for a source of CHAdeMO connectors and a breakdown of the CAN code. The 360V may invoke some safety issues compared to 12V though ?

High state of charge may be an issue. That is why I often dump part of charge to the EV and only top up before a trip.
3.45vpc is not the 4.2V that they could be taken to of course.

This eJerryCan is KISS and not warranty voiding (important at this stage). I'll wait the 50 minutes while I dream of next technology batteries ! Image
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Post by Johny » Mon, 29 Jul 2013, 21:01

Congrats Kurt.

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Post by acmotor » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 00:41

All good ! Nice feeling isn't it !
The headlight sensitivity is adjustable.this post

The RR meter in all EVs is more like a guessometer. Not bad if you are driving more of the same but wildly out if you next 25km are different to you last 25km. e.g. 40km/h city then 100km/h freeway.

I just display odometer and then look at the kWh on the energy 'tank' meter.

Yeah the single wiper is great coverage for RHD (Oz and the iMiEV home country Japan) as it wipes good vision for the driver. I haven't noticed if the Euro (pug etc) reversed the wiper. The US version had 2 wipers.

The sound system... well at least it doesn't have to overcome engine noise. Image
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Post by acmotor » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 03:53

The wiring is in the rear doors for speakers if you want to fit them.
Wiring is also there for DRLs in the front bumper (they weren't fitted in Oz)

Yeah, the regen and the user options D,B,C are great ! The brake pads should last the life of the vehicle !

I do find that the heated driver's seat switch is easy to leave on. You soon find out it is on though as things warm up. Image
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Post by g4qber » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 15:03

http://www.recargo.com/sites/9741

Mandurah cara park charge $1 per hour
Northam cp also does the same after I mentioned to them what mandurah was doing.
Guilderton cp were going to charge $28 but when I got there and quoted mandurah the bloke also agreed to $1 per hour

Somehow the further out from Perth city the more open they are to ev charging.


I've noticed other CPs charge $2 per hour in the eastern states.

Many want to charge powered pad fee ie $30


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Post by g4qber » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 15:09

http://www.recargo.com/sites/10369

Check out the northam adventure
Ran out of power at 106.5 km
Was travelling up greenmount hill at 30kmh and also had easterly headwind.
Could also be the cold

Made it previous week 115km to northam but by satnav plotted shorter route of 107 km which blew out to the 115 due to mayo rd not being completed yet and road works on Mitchell ave northam
This was into turtle mode and I was nana driving. 80kmh and 50/60 kmh through twisty wundowie/gidgegannup
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Post by g4qber » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 15:13

More passengers might mean more weight and less range

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Post by g4qber » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 15:16

B mode is serious regen especially compared with insipid leaf
It even slows the car down on 45 deg declines.

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Post by Johny » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 15:34

g4qber wrote: B mode is serious regen especially compared with insipid leaf
It even slows the car down on 45 deg declines.
The "insipid leaf" uses the first few mm of brake pedal for regen increase removing the need for a whole lot of modes. I can understand the decision not to have the driving feel of the car change to much. I kind of liked the LEAF's approach.

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Post by Johny » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 16:49

offgridQLD wrote: I will say one thing digital speedo readouts are not as good as the analog dial speedo.The analog dial gives you feedback all the time and you can relate the speed of the needle swinging motion to acceleration or a drop in speed. I found it more difficult to maintain a steady speed of say 80kmh using numbers I found myself jumping from 75 - 85.
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Give it a couple of weeks - you get used to it. I initially didn't like my wife's late-model Civic but then copied the font for my EV. I'm now so used to digital that I don't like driving my daughter's car (regular analogue) for any distance that involves watching my speed.

I also REALLY notice driving cars with no regen as well. Wait until that one hits you.

I think humans are very adaptable but take time...

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Post by Johny » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 16:54

offgridQLD wrote:I do do remember being told when I purchased my last new car fitted with fog lights that they were actually illegal to use on QLD roads. I used them all the time though when needed.

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It's the same rules as Victoria - not illegal but monitored (in theory):

Section 217 Using fog lights

    The driver of a vehicle fitted with a front fog light or rear fog light must not operate the fog light unless the driver is driving in fog or other hazardous weather conditions causing reduced visibility.

    Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.*


There are so many vehicle now with over-bright driving lights that I can't see how Police can possibily enforce it.

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Post by acmotor » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 16:57

The front bumper bar lights are DRLs (daytime running lights) not fog lights on at least the Oz and UK issue iMiEVs. So the technical manual says.
They are corectly wired and swiched to come on in the day and switch off if the headlights (not side lights) are switched on.

This is actually in keeping with the ADR requirement that the headlights are the only (and white) lights that are to be illuminated facing forward on the front of a vehicle. This has been the case for many years, probably since ADRs started.

In all of Oz and I expect the whole world, use of fog lights at the same time as headlights is both illegal and downright dangerous for oncomming traffic due to the glare and non dipping nature of fog lights.
For example a WRX with fog lights on is a bad case !
The police are slack on such issues.

DRLs are DRLs and require no further explanation !

edit: when driving in fog, normal headlights are best turned off to reduce the glare from the fog back to you. Just use the fog lights. I think even the road traffic handbooks say that. Kinda makes you wonder then why some vehicles have wired fog and headlights to come on a the same time ?
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Post by acmotor » Tue, 30 Jul 2013, 17:49

ADRs form part of road traffic law so ignoring a 'must not' statement is illegal. Just like using a hand held mobile phone while driving is illegal and you will be fined.
It is unfortunate though that we have to have laws to state the obvious !    
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