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1,000kms in 5 days

Post by doggy » Thu, 11 Apr 2019, 17:56

Took the Zoe for her second "out of town" trip.

Sydney (Sea Level) to Canberra (approx 580metres), approx 320kms.

Charging stop at Bendooley Winery at Berrima, approx 700metres altitude. Two 22kW Tesla DCs. Distance 160kms. Usage to get there, 26kwHrs. 1hr40min charge to 97%.

Arrived in Canberra with 18% battery left. Charged 50mins at ACTEWAGL charging post in Dickson because of many kms to go around town. 29kWHrs used Bendooley to Dickson ACT, 168kms.

Return was 30kwhrs Queanbeyan to Bendooley (168kms). 23% battery left. 1hr40mins charge to 94%. Excellent trip back as effectively downhill. Went 50kms more than the outwards trip and got home with 35% Battery and 101kms left. Used 23kwhrs for >200kms on the return versus 26kWhrs for 160kms uphill.

All travel was at the speed limit which was 110km/hr on most of the highway travelling. Estimating 200kms to a charge at 110km/hr seemed to work well. To Canberra we had a very strong headwind but it did not knock range much.

Total including around Canberra- 1,000kms. Four charges from ACTEWAGL chargers, each around 1hr. Chargers had 22.6kW available with 20.5kW DC going into the battery. Data from canZE.

Two passengers with luggage and two cases of wine bought at Bendooley. Temperatures around the 20->23 mark.

Forced off the road by a semi deciding to overtake the semi in front of it despite little Zoe being 50% of the way along its length (overtaking). Two wheels on the road, two in the loose gravel. Ended up totally off the road in the loose stuff with the semi completely consuming all space and made it back onto the Hume Highway fortunately without being wiped out. I can confirm that putting the foot down with the speed limiter engaged for 112 took us over 130km/hr as we reached the proper road surface. Hitting the brakes was not an option. Zoe was very stable (fortunately). I have held a truck licence for many decades and driven a lot with nil accidents in 55yrs of driving. This was a nasty experience which Zoe handled well.

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Re: 1,000kms in 5 days

Post by jonescg » Thu, 11 Apr 2019, 18:55

Far out - glad you're still with us :o
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Re: 1,000kms in 5 days

Post by Adverse Effects » Thu, 11 Apr 2019, 21:43

glad your safe and alive
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Re: 1,000kms in 5 days

Post by TomZoe » Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 13:58

So glad you got out of that alive. Whilst Zoe will easily do 110km I’ve found kw consumption markedly less at high 90s or even 100 exactly.

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Post by doggy » Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 14:11

Agreed. But I wanted to demonstrate how one can sit on the speed limit and still make viable journeys outside the cities.....and without driving a ute.

I now know that returning from Canberra to Sydney, if I start at 100%, I can simply add 30mins from the 22kW charger at Bendooley and comfortably make it home. Whereas the other direction I need 90-105minutes because it is "uphill".

Similarly, on my first long trip I returned from Rylstone NSW to home (284km) on one charge, on the speed limits the whole way and had 75km estimated range remaining. The 75 would have been a bit of an overstatement by the GOM because the trip was from 770 metres to sea level via two peaks at 1100metres and 1020metres (Blue Mountains and beyond). Going the other direction, I needed a one hour charge at Lithgow Showground but had 35% battery left after 300km and a nett climb of 770metres.

The figures on the Renault simulator are quite accurate and that is why I used 200km at 110km/hr, on the flat as a guideline and such turned out to be true.

I went and picked up my AVASS batteries from the other side of Sydney today. 12.2kWHr per 100km for the 140km round trip. Overall, Zoe range is outstanding for a 40kW car and makes a mockery of what some politicians claim as "truth". 8 x 460AH cells fit perfectly in one layer in the Zoe boot. However, four layers giving 44kW, would weigh a little over 400kg. She might not like that very much.

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Re: 1,000kms in 5 days

Post by TomZoe » Tue, 16 Apr 2019, 03:58

Indeed - do you keep tyres at 36psi?

I’m taking car to bob Jane next week. To. Talk about the uneven wearing. When I got car he said he could get the exact same tyre in 24-48 hours.

Also - how are you checking that the charging station you plan to use will be suitable?

I carry this in the car (with a 15A to 10A adaptor plug that an electrician made for me):

http://evnomics.com.au/juice-booster-2/

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Post by doggy » Tue, 16 Apr 2019, 05:11

Hi Tom, I am embarrassed to say I have not checked them so they are whatever they were when delivered! On my to-do list.

I have a range of charging options. That which I use the most is my OpenEVSE three phase 22kW charger in conjunction with the Zoe Type2 cable One amp increments 6-32A and three phase or single phase and I also use it at home to divert my excess solar into Zoe.

I also have a 6/10/16/32A single phase eVolution EVSE but I almost never use that- it is a backup. I have a range of plugs from 10A, 15amp 32amp all single phase plus the 32A three phase plug.

I also have a J1772 to Type2 adaptor cable.

I have now used several different Tesla DC chargers all without any problems. Two of the ACTEWAGL chargers of which one misbehaved on one charge (other two charges were fine). I use PlugShare quite a lot.

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Dave

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Post by TomZoe » Tue, 16 Apr 2019, 05:16

I must get J1772 adaptor. Does Zoe work ok with this?

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Post by doggy » Tue, 16 Apr 2019, 05:22

It should. I built my own but I have not yet tested it because nowhere nearby. It is there as a backup. However, I have never been so stuck that I desperately needed to use J1772 so it just sits in the boot. It is quite small, less than 1metre long as the J1772 has a flying lead cable.
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Re: 1,000kms in 5 days

Post by brunohill » Tue, 16 Apr 2019, 20:39

doggy wrote:
Tue, 16 Apr 2019, 05:11
Hi Tom, I am embarrassed to say I have not checked them so they are whatever they were when delivered! On my to-do list.

I have a range of charging options. That which I use the most is my OpenEVSE three phase 22kW charger in conjunction with the Zoe Type2 cable One amp increments 6-32A and three phase or single phase and I also use it at home to divert my excess solar into Zoe.

I also have a 6/10/16/32A single phase eVolution EVSE but I almost never use that- it is a backup. I have a range of plugs from 10A, 15amp 32amp all single phase plus the 32A three phase plug.

I also have a J1772 to Type2 adaptor cable.

I have now used several different Tesla DC chargers all without any problems. Two of the ACTEWAGL chargers of which one misbehaved on one charge (other two charges were fine). I use PlugShare quite a lot.

Cheers,
Dave
I assume a Tesla DC charger is an AC charger.

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Re: 1,000kms in 5 days

Post by doggy » Wed, 17 Apr 2019, 03:30

Yes, in Australia it is usually a standard Type2 23kW three phase 3x32amp.
Occasionally some of them are single phase.
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