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CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by dholms » Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 08:42

Hi there,

Looking to get a conversation started with owners of CCS type 1 i3's.

How many KM's have you done?

What's your average daily round trip commute?

What's your typical ECO Pro + range?

Has anyone retrofitted their CCS1 to CCS type 2 through BMW
- I know this was offered for free in NZ but BMW Australia is declining to retrofit under warranty
- Does anyone know anyone who has had their i3 retrofitted?

What adapters do you use? How reliable do you find them?

Cheers!

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Re: CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by lopezjm2001 » Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 04:46

I tried to DC fast charge my BMW i3 at Mittagong RSL https://www.plugshare.com/location/166796. I found that this charger only uses CCS type 2 so I could not do DC fast charge. My BMW i3 only uses a CCS type 1 plug. Does anybody know if there are any options for me? Adaptor cable? Looks like I will have to speak to BMW in Australia.
Did BMW change from type 1 to type 2? and When?
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Re: CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by dgh853 » Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 05:36

Setec make a CCS Combo 2 to CCS Combo 1 Adaptor and there should be others as well - http://www.setec-power.com/china/ccs-co ... -1-adapter
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Re: CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by lopezjm2001 » Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 05:42

dgh853 wrote:
Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 05:36
Setec make a CCS Combo 2 to CCS Combo 1 Adaptor and there should be others as well - http://www.setec-power.com/china/ccs-co ... -1-adapter
Thanks. Looks good.
Can anybody confirm that they actually work in Australia with a BMW i3?
They quoted me US$1000 plus delivery. :(
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Re: CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by Jon8 » Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 06:11

I bought a CCS1 to CCS2 from Setec it works ok..have a look at Franklin St Adelaide on PS there is pic of the adaptor in use

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Re: CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by lopezjm2001 » Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 06:45

Jon8 wrote:
Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 06:11
I bought a CCS1 to CCS2 from Setec it works ok..have a look at Franklin St Adelaide on PS there is pic of the adaptor in use
Thanks, any idea what your maximum charge power was in kW? Did you get the max 50kW?
I decided to get one from https://www.evseadapters.com/collection ... us-adapter. A bit cheaper and they also use Paypal. Setec would only accept a international bank transfer in US dollars only and their postage cost was considerably higher.
I did some reading on the evseadaptors website and found out that both CCS 1 and CCS 2 use the same communications protocol so it is purely pin to wire to pin with no adaptor PCB. I guess it is the high current pins which makes them so f...… expensive. It is really just an expensive plug adaptor.

There are two issues with using an adaptor.
1. They can be forced apart and stolen.
2. They are not safe in the rain. The two joining plugs could be sitting in a puddle of water.

So I am considering swapping out the combo plug inlet with a type 2. Which you can buy from https://www.evse.com.au/ccs-type2-inlet ... ocket.html. Both types 1 and 2 use the same fast charge communications protocol.
The CCS 1 and CCS 2 share the same DC fast charging protocol. The only significant differences are the shape of the plug and the value of the internal proximity resistor. So this works perfectly without requiring a protocol adapter. (CHAdeMO and CCS however use entirely different protocols.) Although there appear to be male plugs on each end, actually one is male and the other is female. We've tested this adapter extensively with several vehicles to make sure it operates as intended.
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Re: CCS 1 BMW i3's

Post by lopezjm2001 » Thu, 01 Nov 2018, 14:30

Setec Power tell me they sell stacks of these adaptors to Norway. They also distribute the same adaptor to www.evseadapters.com.

They sent me a photo of all these adaptors going to Europe
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NUo4v ... v8TJDE3XC3
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