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How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 12:25
by LouB
Does anyone have a link to stats on the number of fully electric Kona and/or Ioniq that have been imported so far and of how many have been sold in Australia?
I am also interested in any information relating to Hyundai's intentions as to its long term support for BEVs in this country.
We have owned two Hyundai in the past, An Accent and an i30 and both have been decent vehicles. I would seriously consider getting a Kona If I had sufficient confidence that Hyundai was going to promote and support its BEVs here for years to come.

Thanks
Lou

Re: How many Kona or Ionic EVs in Australia?

Posted: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 12:36
by LORAX
Hi Lou.

I looked at this a while back so can't remember where exactly I found all the information (so working off vague memory).

Hyundai had lobbied our federal government prior to the last federal election regarding support for an EV market here in Australia. The Labour party was supporting the initiative, but our Liberal government did not support the subsidy initiative (I guess somewhat like in Europe). I do know that Hyundai have a joint initiative with the NT government with a fleet of hydrogen vehicles. Jump on the Hyundai website and look at their mission etc.

Our family converted from Subaru to Hyundai. They just seem to be willing to take the initiative and their EV Kona's are big in the Europe market share.

Re: How many Kona or Ionic EVs in Australia?

Posted: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 13:57
by LouB
Thanks, looks like I need to dig around the web some more
BTW, The Lorax is one of my favourite Dr. Seuss stories and animated film.

Re: How many Kona or Ionic EVs in Australia?

Posted: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 14:09
by LORAX
The Lorax is one of my favourite Dr. Seuss stories and animated film.
ha ha ... well I needed an appropriate name for my new KONA EV which came about because I'm in the midst of a mid-life-crisis and well this purchase was my environmental conscious doing the right thing. Could have got the 2-door sports petrol version for a lot less $$$

I'm hoping that my choice and advocacy for EV and Hyundai in particular (maybe I should be on commission?! :lol: ) helps to drag Aussies out of the dark ages and in line with Europe and Asia which are so much more progressed on this front.

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 16:33
by jonescg
I have these data sitting in a spreadsheet right now - I'll post them up in a minute.
So far this year:

260 Ioniq BEVs
342 Kona EVs.
291 Leafs.
89 Mercedes EQC400s.
77 Zoes and 13 Kangoo ZE vans
56 Jag iPaces
43 BMW i3s
31 Mini Cooper EVs
24 Audi eTrons

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 17:03
by jonescg
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Hope there's a Christmas rush...

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 06:42
by JD Solar and EV
Very interesting Chris.

The numbers you have posted above, is that this years or a cumulative total?

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 08:29
by 4Springs
Label your axes Chris!

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 08:35
by jonescg
JD Solar and EV wrote: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 06:42 Very interesting Chris.

The numbers you have posted above, is that this years or a cumulative total?
Cumulative. The new sales each year are still stubbornly low, but always higher than the year before.

Table version:
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Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 13:31
by Nagaman
Nigel (The EV Puzzle) on the subject of resale valuation decline and a recall for BMS possible:

https://youtu.be/SE1s6ZZCfxs

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 14:31
by jonescg
4Springs wrote: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 08:29 Label your axes Chris!
I did! That Y axis should probably be labelled "EVs on the road" as it's a cumulative total.

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 14:43
by LouB
Thanks for the figures Chris. 5277 BEVs for the last full year is something anyhow. Possibly even enough to keep 1 full-time repairer in business, he..he. Extrapolating from the last 3 reported quarters appears to show a coming decline. Then, of course, Christmas sales rush could make up for it.

The most I could find was from: https://insideevs.com/news/443351/hyund ... gust-2020/

It provides these global sales figures for Hyundai for the month of August 2020 compared to same month in previous year:
BEVs: 3,580 (down 26%)
PHEVs: 526 (down 46%)
Total plug-ins: 4,106 (down 30%)

AND
Again, sales for month of August and YTD
Hyundai Kona Electric – 2,452 and 35,628 YTD
Hyundai IONIQ Electric – 1,128 and 10,314 YTD
Hyundai IONIQ Plug-In – 526 and 5,875 YTD
Total: 4,106 and 51,817 YTD
The graphs on the same page give a fuller picture but do not show significantly increasing sales.

Now, If only I could discover how serious Hyundai is about its mid to long term commitment to EVs in this country. There has been much talk that Hyundai cannot keep up with demand, especially for the Kona BEV. And I know that some have been waiting for many months for their ordered vehicle to arrive, but you would think that any company with such a successful product would quickly ramp up production to score huge profits. Or, have I missed something?

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 13:57
by Rusdy
jonescg wrote: Fri, 09 Oct 2020, 16:33 I have these data sitting in a spreadsheet right now - I'll post them up in a minute.
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Thanks Chris! I wonder why NT is so low... Maybe they know hot climate is no good for EV?

Re: How many Kona or Ioniq EVs in Australia?

Posted: Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 20:53
by bje
An instinctive reaction would be that there is a lot of long distance driving deterring EV ownership, but if I recall, the NT has one of the lowest annual kilometres driven of any state/territory, presumably because lots of cars are mostly driven around Darwin only.