J1772 ChargeStar / NextCharge Soft Launch - S. Aus

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Post by g4qber » Wed, 30 Nov 2016, 01:12

J1772 tethered stations

3 stations at council locations
a) 2 Stuart St Victor Harbour
Victor Harbour
https://goelectricstations.com/map-char ... 138.621982

b) 45 Albert St Gumeracha
Gumeracha
https://goelectricstations.com/map-char ... 138.886568

c) 9 Laurie La Goolwa
Goolwa
https://goelectricstations.com/map-char ... 138.784181



24/7
10c per kWh
need to use Next Charge app - iOS / Droid

need to enter your credit card details
use app to charge

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/next-ch ... 46715?mt=8

Droid
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... arge&hl=en

Please don't put on PlugShare yet thanks.
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Post by Richo » Wed, 30 Nov 2016, 20:18

Can I ask that with your Vast array of Electric cars do you actually charge at these random places because you need to?

Also have you thought of leaving one of your cars somewhere else?
You know One at home one in the city.
That way if one gets low you just swap over..
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Post by jonescg » Wed, 30 Nov 2016, 23:10

I'm not sure what's funnier - Joseph's enthusiasm for charging infrastructure or the fact that it winds you up so much Image
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Post by reecho » Thu, 01 Dec 2016, 01:36

jonescg wrote: I'm not sure what's funnier - Joseph's enthusiasm for charging infrastructure or the fact that it winds you up so much Image


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Post by Richo » Thu, 01 Dec 2016, 20:32

Yeah both I'd reckon Image

I can just imagine g4qber setting out in his electric car for the sole purpose of charging at one of these places.

With so many charge stations going in and slow take up of ev's I wonder if there will be more charge stations than ev's at some point.

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Post by Richo » Thu, 01 Dec 2016, 20:38

I see charging stations in metro area's about as useful as bus stops in the middle of nowhere.

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Post by Richo » Thu, 01 Dec 2016, 20:42

Found another charging station Image
I see them quite often scattered all over the place.

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Post by Richo » Thu, 01 Dec 2016, 20:46

When I was out and about I found these charging stations...
Most of them have 0c/kWh Image

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Post by adelaide-ev » Sun, 04 Dec 2016, 02:18

"24/7
10c per kWh
need to use Next Charge app - iOS / Droid

need to enter your credit card details
use app to charge"

Any way to use these for non smartphone folks?
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Post by mikedufty » Sun, 04 Dec 2016, 06:52

Get a smartphone? I bought a new one for $24 recently, and it came with $30 credit, so they were effectively paying me $6 to take it.

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Post by Richo » Mon, 05 Dec 2016, 20:48

It's an undisclosed govt subsidy.
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Post by Richo » Mon, 05 Dec 2016, 21:03

In the good-ol days we used switches.
They were basic but nearly 100% efficient.
Consumed no power when off.
Easy to operate - ON / OFF even animals could learn to use them.

Then along came displays with button that told you useless crap like if it was on or off.
They used power when "off" and had shorter life spans than switches.

Now we have displays with no buttons.
They still tell you useless crap.
They still use power when "off"
And in some cases you need another device just to use it.
The other device has an even shorter life.
And that also consumes more power.

Soon the display will be gone.
These will be replaced with PROJECTORS to make the destination aesthetically clean and appealing.
These use even more power than before.
The don't last long at all.
AND unless you are carrying a secondary device is completely unusable.

In 40-50 years time someone will install a "switch" for nostalgic reasons and will become in favour again.
Realising that all the stuff before if was $tupid and the switch since it's nearly 100% efficient and even a dum-a$$ animal can use it.

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Post by woody » Mon, 05 Dec 2016, 21:17

mikedufty wrote: Get a smartphone? I bought a new one for $24 recently, and it came with $30 credit, so they were effectively paying me $6 to take it.
OFF-TOPIC:

The 30 "dollars" credit is not actually $AUD. They call it dollars, but that's deceptive.

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Post by jonescg » Mon, 05 Dec 2016, 22:41

Richo,

I can sympathise with your desire for a simple socket and switch! How hard would it have been for the same GPO standards to have been applied to cars. Well, as it turns out the auto industry has a much higher standard of safety and quality than your average sparky. If a car burns down and it was found to be charging from a non-tested/certified charge point, the manufacturer will suffer the fall-out (and deny an insurance payout). Everyone who drives or rides an EV built before 2008 probably has a 10 or 15 amp plug. But if you need more than 15 amps, you have to step up to a 5 pin, 32 amp three phase socket which is bulky but not impossible.

But for the benefit of the casual site browser, the reason we have dedicated EV-specific charging points are as follows:

If you trip a breaker cause your car has a fault somewhere in the charging circuit, the breaker will remain tripped until its reset. If it hides behind a locked distribution board the socket's versatility is ruined for everyone. Modern EV charge points have circuit protection at the point of delivery, making fault correction quick and easy.

Also, the humble, animal-ready on/off switch cannot measure energy consumption. Not a big deal for a charge here or there, but when every man and his dog rocks up with a 40 kWh+ battery, someone has to pay for the power and it might as well be the users, not the provider. Modern EV charge points can measure energy and bill directly.

Otherwise, I am a big fan of simple charging infrastructure, and the reason behind the AEVA supporting the installation of 5-pin sockets around Australia.

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Post by mikedufty » Tue, 06 Dec 2016, 18:50

woody wrote:
mikedufty wrote: it came with $30 credit, so they were effectively paying me $6 to take it.
OFF-TOPIC:

The 30 "dollars" credit is not actually $AUD. They call it dollars, but that's deceptive.

Yes, it was a google play store credit, which is probably not of much use to someone who doesn't actually want a smart phone, but it was useful for me.

I got a $100 apple store credit with one of my kid's laptops which I still haven't managed to use 2 years later. Should have put it on ebay.

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Post by Henery » Wed, 14 Dec 2016, 18:43

A bit like wandering down an electric highway.
The new stations at Goolwa, Strathalbyn, McLaren Vale and Mount Barker are now on Plugshare. The two sites at Victor Harbour are obviously installed so should be added soon. Another is planned for Normanville. They are free to use for the next year or so. Local Councils will cover the cost. Those installed by Estation need a Chargestar RFID card for access ($20), or you can use the Nextcharge phone app instead.
The Goelectricstations map mentioned above shows which they are.                     
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