Tritium fast chargers

[coulomb]

Or some scallywag filled the inside of the case with butane and dropped a match?

I wondered about sabotage as well, but from the report:

• "A vehicle was disconnecting from the ChargeNet station when it "blew apart", a Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Fenz) spokesman said."

Unless someone set up something with a timer or it just needed a spark... it just seems unlikely to me.

[g4qber]

Tesla’s seem to have error 74 authentication issues at UWA veefil dc.
Many Tesla owners have to un/plug at least 3 times.

According to Ant Day,
No error 74 issue nor wait to start charging after tagging with his Kona.

Perhaps this can be a clue to circontrol QPC trio Tesla dc issues ?

[g4qber]

Ant has since updated that he had to Wait 15 secs for authentication.

One hunch is the pilot signal of the ccs2 connector is faulty?

This is what happened at circontrol Harvey and margaret river dces
The ccs2 Phoenix contact connectors dont seem That robust.

[g4qber]

Perhaps this topic could be moved from “the lounge” to “charging infrastructure” group ?

[coulomb]

Perhaps this topic could be moved from “the lounge” to “charging infrastructure” group ?

Done.

[Bennyr83]

I saw someone ask about issues with these chargers in other parts of the world, and yes they exist.
One of these chargers was just installed in my town last week in Ontario Canada. I happened to be in the parking lot when I saw the technician pull out the "now open" sign from his truck, so I figured I'd give it a try. After about a minute, I got Error 139.
Luckily the tech didn't drive off yet, and was able to fix it up pretty quick. Error 139 is a fault when one of the cooling fans is unable to kick in, and apparently the plug for this fan is in an inconvenient spot, and needs to be disconnected for quite a lot of internal service, and some tech's forget to plug it back in when they're done.
He popped off the back cover, and had it reconnected in a few seconds.
I would have thought that a system like this would run through a self-test when powering on to check all these things, but maybe they were monkeying with it after it was powered on.

The next day I came back to the same charger, and again after a minute got Error 64
No tech around this time, so I submitted a report through the charge network's app. Don't know what this one is, but I suspect it's also related to the cooling system since it happened at nearly the same amount of charge time.
2 days later I tried the same charger and had no problems over a 30 minute charge.

[EVTorque]

Error 32 at gwelup Veefil reported by model 3
Error 39 then permanently stuck on error 131 when trying to charge with imiev

Error 32: Description: Regulation issue with the charger while charging a CCS vehicle Likely Reason: Could not respond to changing grid conditions Resolution: Return plug to charger, remote charger reset and try again

Error: 39 Description: 480V 3 phase supply exceeded limits: <432V or >528V or <55Hz or >65Hz Likely Reason: Short glitch in power OR 3 phase power is lost OR Internal RCD tripped OR Internal breaker tripped Resolution: Return plug to charger, remote charger reset, if this clears the area if must have been only a short glitch that cause the error, if it does not clear please refer the issue to Tritium.

[g4qber]

Error 32 occurred once at

Lake Grace
29 Stubbs St, Lake Grace WA 6353, Australia
https://www.plugshare.com/location/268279

[g4qber]

Initial errors at gwelup nov ‘19

[g4qber]

Veefil status codes

[g4qber]

UWA DC dead. error 353. Not listed

[praxidice]

According to Tritium blurb 'In addition to four fast-charging units in Brisbane (at Fortitude Valley, Coorparoo and St Lucia) eight further fast chargers will link popular destinations in the region (Noosa, Sunshine Coast, Caboolture/Burpengary, Ipswich, Toowoomba, Cararra/Southport, Coolangata/Tweed, Byron).'

To date I have seen nothing happen. Perhaps they were referring to the defunct / removed Brisbane BMW DCFC, the one at UQ and the state government ones at Toowoomba, Helenvale and Bilinga .. dunno about Coorparoo, Ipswich, Noosa, Caboolture and Carrara though.

[coulomb]

To date I have seen nothing happen.

There is plenty happening at the moment. The Queensland Electric Super Highway stage two accounts for a few (e.g. Ipswich), Evie is building out their network (e.g. Buderim, Noosaville). Check out plugshare.

[praxidice]

To date I have seen nothing happen.

There is plenty happening at the moment. The Queensland Electric Super Highway stage two accounts for a few (e.g. Ipswich), Evie is building out their network (e.g. Buderim, Noosaville). Check out plugshare.

Certainly a few more scattered around since the last time I checked although too many Tesla ones for my liking. I've always found them more trouble than they are worth. Its a pity that the interests of non-Teslarti aren't promoted more extensively. Thankfully it looks like the next round of government ones are finally getting rolled out with common or garden variety connections. Also encouraging that some country pubs have realized even a 10 amp socket is likely to attract business. I believe there is plenty of scope for more of those.

[brunohill]

To date I have seen nothing happen.

There is plenty happening at the moment. The Queensland Electric Super Highway stage two accounts for a few (e.g. Ipswich), Evie is building out their network (e.g. Buderim, Noosaville). Check out plugshare.

Certainly a few more scattered around since the last time I checked although too many Tesla ones for my liking. I've always found them more trouble than they are worth. Its a pity that the interests of non-Teslarti aren't promoted more extensively. Thankfully it looks like the next round of government ones are finally getting rolled out with common or garden variety connections. Also encouraging that some country pubs have realized even a 10 amp socket is likely to attract business. I believe there is plenty of scope for more of those.

Yeah Mate, That's what we need. Just lots of 3 phase country pubs.

[reecho]

New modular chargers announced yesterday...RTM75 looks the goods.

https://youtu.be/z02MbZ2aneU

[praxidice]

There is plenty happening at the moment. The Queensland Electric Super Highway stage two accounts for a few (e.g. Ipswich), Evie is building out their network (e.g. Buderim, Noosaville). Check out plugshare.

Certainly a few more scattered around since the last time I checked although too many Tesla ones for my liking. I've always found them more trouble than they are worth. Its a pity that the interests of non-Teslarti aren't promoted more extensively. Thankfully it looks like the next round of government ones are finally getting rolled out with common or garden variety connections. Also encouraging that some country pubs have realized even a 10 amp socket is likely to attract business. I believe there is plenty of scope for more of those.

Yeah Mate, That's what we need. Just lots of 3 phase country pubs.

Three phase is pushing it ... I don't recall even one country pub in my travels that was so equipped. Showgrounds are a different situation though

[g4qber]

Knutsford St Parking/Charging
Knutsford Street, Fremantle WA 6160, Australia
https://www.plugshare.com/location/287149
Not for public use yet - gated

The Kodja Place & Kojonup Visitor Centre
143 Albany Hwy, Kojonup WA 6395, Australia
https://www.plugshare.com/location/284816
Ex white gum valley dc now with CCS2 plug

[cthombor]

Hi, I'm writing from across the ditch. I haven't yet seen anything released to the public from the NZ WorkSafe investigation into the spectacular (and vehicle-damaging) blowout of a Tritium charging station in Christchurch Nov 2019. I'd be a bit surprised if Worksafe ever did make a public release of their findings, and I doubt Tritium would want to publish a detailed technical report on this incident... so I think any outsider will only be able to guess at the electrical component which emitted that "loud bang" and what generated a shock-wave big enough to cause the front-panel to "explode off". However it seems pretty likely to me that some variation in the power supply to this unit could cause an overcurrent situation which -- due to a design, build, or operational fault in this particular charging station -- was not handled in a failsafe manner.

Failsafe shutdown of the power flows in a fast-DC charging station is quite a technical challenge, one that is far beyond my bare-bones knowledge of power-engineering. However I was interested to read (and I think the readers of this thread may also be interested to read) a press-release-cum-salespitch from Littelfuse (https://www.techbriefs.com/component/co ... cles/34153) which briefly explains some of the issues in safety-design for fast-DC charging

"All electrical systems, including DC chargers, will eventually experience some level of overcurrent. Unless removed in time, even moderate over-currents can quickly overheat system components, damaging insulation, conductors, and equipment; large overcurrents can even melt conductors and vaporize insulation. Very high overcurrents produce magnetic forces capable of bending and twisting bus bars, and uncontrolled overcurrents can damage chargers, leading to fires, poisonous fumes, and explosions that can injure or kill anyone nearby."

Fortunately: that explosion merely blew out a panel, and no person was harmed.

<rant>There have been many, far more spectacular, safety-fails at petrol stations. And it's a dirty open-secret that there are many excess leukaemia deaths caused each year by the normal operations of petrol stations, see e.g. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... ealth.html. But our human-perception of safety risks is heavily influenced by spectacular incidents, such as the heavily-reported spectacular crash of a jetliner (every few years) which kills a few hundred people in a single incident somewhere in the world, and the non-reporting of the non-news that each day more than 3000 more people die on our world's roadways.</rant>

[philupandgo]

Only 2 weeks ago i wanted to pull into a servo (sometimes i have to drive the Dmax). There were cones across the entrance and they waved me on. A few seconds later i passed the police and fire brigade rushing to the scene. Never found out what it was, but they enacted some fail-safe procedure. As machines become more automated, especially those in remote places, the same procedures have to be encoded to detect trends and events and shut down gracefully. I know Tritium do this, and this event will no doubt result in more defensive manufacture/coding. The net result for us is increased false positives where the charger trips for seemingly no reason and to great annoyance. We have to remember that that is what keeps us safe, and maybe stranded.