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First sighting of the grey import Nissan e-nv200 van on carsales

5000km, $29000. I wonder if it is actually complianced yet. Surprised they would let the rear seat with lap-only belts through.

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One of the attached photos shows the rear retractable seat belt for the outer seats so just like any other rear seat belt set up by the look of it. 170km range is still a bit light on but the 122km/h top speed is fine. I wonder if a battery upgrade would be possible to increase the range, it would make a great work delivery van with the rear seat removed or folded down and double as a family drive car on week ends. It appears to be NSW compliant so not an issue getting the rego transferred to SA but not too sure about the other states

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You are right, normal seatbelts. Makes it quite appealing if it can take 5 passengers when needed.
I suspect the range is less than 170. One review says 80 miles range indicated, which would be about 130km.
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It would need around double that range to be of much use for us out here in the sticks at Mannum so we could use it as a utility type vehicle for the business to travel to Adelaide and back.
They mention a 7 hr recharge time to get another 130km, I'm hoping there would be a faster charging option available or it would be a real long trip back here from Sydney :lol:

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Nissan battery packs are very easy to retro-fit with new battery cells. Sounds like a project.
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To the best of my knowledge, nobody has yet hacked the firmware to make the car recognize more battery capacity. Is anyone aware of anything different ?
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praxidice wrote: Mon, 27 Aug 2018, 09:03 To the best of my knowledge, nobody has yet hacked the firmware to make the car recognize more battery capacity. Is anyone aware of anything different ?

old thread, but answer is now yes.
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squidage wrote: Wed, 21 Aug 2019, 06:47
praxidice wrote: Mon, 27 Aug 2018, 09:03 ... nobody has yet hacked the firmware ... anyone aware of anything different ?
... answer is now yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd3uvtlamjY
Heh. You have to admire those guys that can hack firmware ;) . He made it sounds pretty easy, too. Something like "Yeah, yesterday I had to hack it a bit to change this byte in this CAN packet, and now here it is working, showing 432 km range".

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With that sort of range even under their "Worst case scenario" in the follow up video, 290km, we could get from Mannum to Adelaide and back on a charge with a load. This might be the next workshop vehicle once the taxi Prius dies.

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Hi All,
Does anyone in this forum have personal experience with the e-nv200? It would be great to hear some warts-and-all experience.
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I have an E-NV200 waiting for compliance as we speak in NSW I should be receiving it within a week or 2, I can give you some feedback for sure.
I also plan to put a 35kwhr pack extender in the back similar to how muxsan has done so, assuming this all goes to plan I can keep you posted.
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Thanks @AlessandroPez I'll look forward to hearing your experience.
I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a post 2018 40KwH model, but they seem a bit thin on the ground at present!
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Yeah, @AlessandroPez im also very interested in your project, i've watched the Muxan stuff and they don't send to australia, I like the "UBEX" extender, seems like a winner for a ~55kWh env200.
Please keep us posted. I'm interested in doing the same, but the ~10k Euro (18k AUD) plus shipping + tax seems prohibitive. Would love to know more details.
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Hi Alessandro,
AlessandroPez wrote: Mon, 25 Oct 2021, 13:47 I have an E-NV200 waiting for compliance as we speak in NSW I should be receiving it within a week or 2, I can give you some feedback for sure.
I also plan to put a 35kwhr pack extender in the back similar to how muxsan has done so, assuming this all goes to plan I can keep you posted.
If your vehicle arrived when you expected to, you'd have had it now for nearly 3 months. How have you found it? Have you had an opportunity to plan/complete your upgrade?

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I also noticed in this post that @Chopperau has also imported an eNV200. It would be great to have some on-the-ground feedback from people who own these in Australia.

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Hi everyone,

I picked my E-Nv200 up last Monday, so far really pleased with it! its a 2015 VX 5 seat 24 kWh model from Japan. I paid $20,500 for the car importing, ADR etc. Cosmetically it is in excellent condition, build quality as you would expect from a Nissan is very good. The battery SOH is at %80.15 according to leaf spy pro.

I drove it back down to Kiama NSW from Blacktown in Sydney which required 3 consecutive DCFC, as these vehicles have active cooling it didn't slow down charging speed at all maintain above 40 kW up to 80%. 2 of the DCFC were also free as they were done at University campuses. total cost for 180km home $6.52 at a EVIE station in seven hills which charged a whopping 60c/kWh.

Range wise from those initial tests, on the freeway at 100kmh with AC on your looking at 60-90Km with the battery as it is. Given the 24 kWh battery at 80% SOH I have approx 17  kWh to a full charge, so getting 90km on the highway at 95-105km/h is not to bad given the size of the vehicle. If you are going around town you will get 100km quite happily.

These vans are extremely quick of the mark don't let the size fool you they are not short of power with the 80 kW motor, leading me to say you can load it up and rest assure it will going just fine.

One thing that disappointed me was I though all the E-NV200 in Japan had 6.6 kW on board chargers but it appears they don't as mine is 3.3 kW, but realistically over night it still charges fully. They come with a 250V Japanese charger that your local electrical can pull apart and convert the plug to a 15A AUS spec, so you have a 3.3 kW charger already.

If anyone has any questions I would be happy to answer, I also purchased a new BYD T3 for my business which I can provide feedback on also.

Next step is a battery modification, my team and I will be retrofitting an auxiliary battery pack into the back of the Van to make it more highway friendly. As we progress It will be well documented.

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This van has active cooling, I never knew that!
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Rusdy wrote: Tue, 01 Mar 2022, 21:01 This van has active cooling, I never knew that!
Yes. I believe that it's pretty crude, perhaps a fan and a bit of ducting, but it's there. All the more frustrating that they don't do the same thing to Leafs!
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AlessandroPez wrote: Mon, 28 Feb 2022, 14:04 Hi everyone,

I picked my E-Nv200 up last Monday, so far really pleased with it! its a 2015 VX 5 seat 24 kWh model from Japan. I paid $20,500 for the car importing, ADR etc. Cosmetically it is in excellent condition, build quality as you would expect from a Nissan is very good. The battery SOH is at %80.15 according to leaf spy pro.

I drove it back down to Kiama NSW from Blacktown in Sydney which required 3 consecutive DCFC, as these vehicles have active cooling it didn't slow down charging speed at all maintain above 40 kW up to 80%. 2 of the DCFC were also free as they were done at University campuses. total cost for 180km home $6.52 at a EVIE station in seven hills which charged a whopping 60c/kWh.

Range wise from those initial tests, on the freeway at 100kmh with AC on your looking at 60-90Km with the battery as it is. Given the 24 kWh battery at 80% SOH I have approx 17  kWh to a full charge, so getting 90km on the highway at 95-105km/h is not to bad given the size of the vehicle. If you are going around town you will get 100km quite happily.

These vans are extremely quick of the mark don't let the size fool you they are not short of power with the 80 kW motor, leading me to say you can load it up and rest assure it will going just fine.

One thing that disappointed me was I though all the E-NV200 in Japan had 6.6 kW on board chargers but it appears they don't as mine is 3.3 kW, but realistically over night it still charges fully. They come with a 250V Japanese charger that your local electrical can pull apart and convert the plug to a 15A AUS spec, so you have a 3.3 kW charger already.

If anyone has any questions I would be happy to answer, I also purchased a new BYD T3 for my business which I can provide feedback on also.

Next step is a battery modification, my team and I will be retrofitting an auxiliary battery pack into the back of the Van to make it more highway friendly. As we progress It will be well documented.

[ Edited Coulomb: fixed units. ]
Looking forward to more feed back and what sort of range you get with the additional battery pack. The price sounds good if all the import and on road costs are included, but I'd need a 200km range at least to get me to Adelaide and back allowing for the big hill climbing out of Adelaide.
How well did the regen braking go down Mt Ousley? There are a number of down hill runs between the end of the top of Bulli Pass and the top of "Number 1" or did you come down the Goulburn freeway and turn off on the Picton Rd?

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$20,500 was including on roads etc, the only thing I need to renew rego and insurance as it only came with 3 months.

We are waiting on the delivery of some CAN bridges and should begin upgrading at the end of the month, the hope is about 200-250km range highway and 300km around town.

The regen down mount ousley was great I got about 3-4% back which is substantial.
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AlessandroPez wrote: Sun, 13 Mar 2022, 12:41 $20,500 was including on roads etc, the only thing I need to renew rego and insurance as it only came with 3 months.

We are waiting on the delivery of some CAN bridges and should begin upgrading at the end of the month, the hope is about 200-250km range highway and 300km around town.

The regen down mount ousley was great I got about 3-4% back which is substantial.
Sorry, somehow I missed this reply. I'll let my ignorance show, what is a "can bridge" has the capacity upgrade started yet?
Was the regen sufficient to hold the van back and not need the foot brake on the steep downhill section of Mt Ousley? The run down the Adelaide Hills to the cross roads is a tad steeper, but close, the Prius will hold on the high regen (brake selected on the transmission selector) but the battery is full half way down .... cost me more than one speeding ticket because there is no warning that the regen is just going to cut out .... and it's always just before the overhead speed camera :twisted:

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e-NV200 - seeking contact for 40kwh battery supplier

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Hi folks,

i'm in WA and recently purchased a near new 2015 model, 15k on the clock, soh 80%. Yep, in original blue ;)

super happy - i'm getting up to 120km per full charge running about the city (average 40km per day) and am adjusting my attitude towards the need to travel, travel planning etc. which is a bit of a wakeup call.

I love the flexibility of this vehicle and am keen to keep it as long as possible.

i intend to upgrade the battery if/when the effective range drops below 80km - has anyone upgraded a 24kWh to a 40kWh?

if so, do you have a contact for an importer/supplier?

I have contacted Nissan service dept but getting the runaround so far.

cheers & look forward to discussion.

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Hi, I am in Tassie and have owned a 2015 e-nv200 for 7 months now. Just wondering if there's been any progress with battery upgrades in Australia? I'd love a bit more range!
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TasEnv wrote: Thu, 15 Feb 2024, 12:19Just wondering if there's been any progress with battery upgrades in Australia? I'd love a bit more range!
I believe that Oz DIY EVs are doing the first few Leaf battery upgrades. I believe that the E-NV200 battery is similar, although it is air cooled so that may be an issue. I can't quickly find the list of affiliated garages; there's probably none in Tasmania but I think that there would be in Melbourne or Sydney. Could be worth a call, though it might be best to wait a few more weeks for them to sort out the teething issues. It may also take the affiliated garages some time to get up to speed as well. Since you'll likely have to ship the van anyway, it might be best to ship to Brisbane where most of the expertise is, as yours is likely to be the first NV200, if they do them at all.
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Many thanks coulomb. I've been following those guys. I'm wondering if there's anyone else out there in Australia who either upgrade the battery themselves or provide a kit that a local specialist could fit.
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