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Phantom braking

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I’m really looking forward to the update that finally stops the dangerous behaviour.
On a return from Bendigo down the McIvor Hwy the autopilot decided to ‘brake test’ a cement truck, on my tail in a line of traffic, at the speed limit. :oops:
B dangerous and embarrassing, and needs fixing before I’ll accept all this FSD spruiking.

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Yeah I wouldn't use these features personally. Quite a few complaints from M3 owners finding their self-driving features trying to kill them... :o
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jonescg wrote:
Thu, 19 Mar 2020, 08:44
Yeah I wouldn't use these features personally. Quite a few complaints from M3 owners finding their self-driving features trying to kill them... :o
The other dangerous aspect is corners will double lines and the propensity to dive to the outside of the bend, run onto the inner line and even the rumble strip separating them.
The thought of motorcyclists (or trucks) taking the ‘racing line’ doesn’t bare thinking about.

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Phantom braking also occurs in standard traffic aware cruise control (TACC) mode
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g4qber wrote:
Thu, 19 Mar 2020, 17:47
Phantom braking also occurs in standard traffic aware cruise control (TACC) mode
Maybe that’s what I experienced on Wednesday on the Goulburn Valley fwy when we were cruising at just 80 behind another vehicle and some hesitation occurred as traffic blew past at 110.
The latest update has made significant speed differences between lanes a potential hazard.........but slowing the slower traffic doesn’t make sense. Dips, shadows .....any excuse it seems.

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A YouTuber - Cf Tesla, has just brought to my attention that update 8.1 might be a trial for just a few and I might be a guinea pig for proving purposes. He says he’s on 12.1 having skipped 8.1 .........does that sound plausible?.
All I know is that basic autopilot isn’t to be trusted under some traffic circumstances

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Unplugged ev is on 4.1 and his car tried several times to update to 8.1 but kept failing to update. Then the update stop being listed. After talking to tesla he managed to get out of them that 8.1 is buggy and they've back pedalled on the roll out and that's why his car is no longer trying to update.

https://youtu.be/rveyA2iJmzY

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^^^^^^ dead right it’s buggy.
This afternoon we got full regen out in the middle of nowhere.
It decided we were suddenly in a 50 k zone ......after around 4 kms it decided we weren’t.
If something big had been on our tail I shudder to think of the consequences.

Do I really have to have a Twitter account to get the message across....!

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Well 8.1 has been replaced by 8.2
Cornering is still clumsy......time will tell on phantom braking.

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https://youtu.be/q2uHsa-MXDc - bjørn nyland phantom braking
https://youtu.be/n8qSO7dJ32U - follow up
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Perhaps AI or human needs to go through the data to determine that if the road is straight, don’t brake
This is for my cases in Midland Bishop Rd, Ballajura Hepburn Av and Edgewater Edgewater Dr

My hunch is that a previous driver’s braking data has been uploaded to the hive AP/TACC cloud database
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You certainly don’t want to tailgate my SR+ unless you’re into excitement.

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