Best seller for PIP inverters

[Dan007a]

Looking for local contact to purchase a new PiP Inverter

[coulomb]

Looking for local contact to purchase a new PiP Inverter

Not exactly a local contact, but I got mine on Ebay, through seller maximum_solar. They sometimes have stock in Sydney for the more popular models.

[jonescg]

You can also buy direct from MPP Solar in Taiwan.

[T1 Terry]

You can also buy direct from MPP Solar in Taiwan.

Well, you can try, but it now seems everything goes through the local agent no matter how hard you try. We used a lot of their products when we dealt directly with the Taiwan people, but now everything goes through the local bloke things seem to get lost in translation or something. After trying for weeks to get a problem sorted with a PCM60X (which is an MPP Solar product) and the whole email back and forward going full circle where we couldn't seem to get through to them just what the problem was, we gave up all together. After it taking 6 mths to get a replacement motherboard for a failed 4024 MSP inverter that was still under warranty yet still cost us $110 and we had to do all the strip down, testing and now replacement at our cost .... we have changed to using Victron products until their customer support improves ......

T1 Terry

[Dan007a]

Thanks Terry. If you having dramas . What am the lower class ment to do . Lol.

I was 50 50 on mpp vs victron. Any ways

[T1 Terry]

The Victron downside, the output of say a 3000 is actually 2500w and only if you can keep the internal temp below 40*C .... a tough one when it's 45*+ ambient. They self de-rate until the temp reaches 65*C +/- around 5*C and at that point just shut down. The PIP units can handle up around the 60*C till they de-rate and the listing is what you get, the 4000 unit is 4000w continuous.
The Victron does have that power sharing thing so that can be a real bonus if using a back up generator that is a tad under powered for the big loads but plenty adequate for the average run loads otherwise. The units transition between being a battery charger and an inverter depending on the supply V the load and the supply can be set as part of the programming.
They do require the purchase of a special adaptor to link the laptop to the unit for system upgrades and easier programming, but it's a one off purchase of around the $80 mark from memory. The ability to link in parallel or 3 phase with just an RJ45 cable and no additional adaptor cards like the PIP units require is good, but the price difference is quite substantial. The Victron also has separate voltage sensing, a definite feature lacking in the PIP units and if you go with a full set of Victron equipment all of the newer "smart" range, they all network together via bluetooth and can be interconnected via one of the GX hubs to send all the info to a smart phone or internet, but without the GX unit, each individual unit can be pulled up with its own header so its operation can be seen separate to the other units.
So, good and bad on both sides. There is another player in the field, the units Jaycar sold for a while but couldn't squeeze out a better buy price so they dropped them from their line up .... for the life of me I can't remember the name, but someone here will ....


T1 Terry