A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Wed, 19 Mar 2014, 14:51

looks like it could just a coincidence.

volt was behaving itself this morning.
plugged in & out 3x
first time, it green LED flashing indicated fully charged.
2nd n 3rd time, volt went into green steady charge mode.

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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Mon, 14 Apr 2014, 13:08

tripping is a blessing in disguise

tests the RCD and makes sure that it is working.
used Nissan 15A evseupgrade this morning.
had to reset @ meter box.

previous nights, Mitsubishi 10A EVSE had been charging successfully.
this is when the battery is depleted a bit.
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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Sat, 17 May 2014, 20:13

got my 32A circontrol e-station wall box back.
now using it to charge the volt at 14A.

Went up to Yanchep Shopping Centre last Saturday.
Used the 15A to 10A adaptor from Jaycar, but since the volt draws 14+A unlike the imiev's 13-A, the adaptor's over current circuit trips after 5-10 mins
had to use the volt's 10A unit to charge.

wish that bollard would be upgraded to 15A
currently running on 20A circuit with 2x 10A sockets
I guess this will be for the future when 2 bays may be allocated for EVs.
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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Thu, 11 Sep 2014, 00:47

Just met a guy last night at the Perth AEVA monthly meeting.
His hunch is that it is an earthing issue on the Volt. This was already found by e-station's testing in 2012.

The HVAC freezes and the indicator Freeze also sounds like Earth is stuffing up the computer.

This guy has found that corrosion has occurred on vehicles that have odd auto electrical issues.
He as come across many vehicles that are cured by terminating earth connections properly.
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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Sun, 21 Dec 2014, 23:03

Volt trips Bmw Delphi clipper creek 8a evse
Also managed to get 10 amp Holden evse to fault today
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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Tue, 24 Mar 2015, 14:45

Volt works ok with antiscabs emw 80 amp unit
Also didn't trip on his circuit when charging with Mitsubishi evse.
He has industrial rcd which may have greater spike tolerance.
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A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by antiscab » Tue, 24 Mar 2015, 16:25

The RCD attached to that circuit is a 3-phase 32A MCB with a 30mA trip current

The EMW still has an 80A pilot signal, but it's on a 32A circuit (fed by 6mm2 TPS).

One day I'll get around to adjusting the pilot signal, but there's only one car at the moment that can draw more, and that's a Tesla. I don't know anyone with a Tesla :p

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Re: A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by Peter C in Canberra » Sun, 14 Jan 2018, 07:52

Is this RCD tripping issue an intermittent problem with all Volts in Australia or just some? Do some Volts always behave themselves perfectly on any EVSE?
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Re: A closer look at the volt RCD tripping issue

Post by g4qber » Sun, 14 Jan 2018, 11:53

Hi peter C

Personally I believe the fault is endemic on ALL volts.
GM doesn’t want to know about it, especially the GM volt forum whose solution is to put EVSE on non GFCI/RCD circuit.

There is an earth leakage issue.

On the Elektrobay bollards the check engine light shows up on the volt.

The Holden EVSE works 95% of the time.
E-station’s wallboxes also are good but they are not EVSEs

The 15 amp clipper Creek EVSE has a charge fault LED which generally stops the mains RCD from tripping. Note that Holden EVSE internals are made by Clipper Creek.

looks like GM/Chevy has not learnt from Volt mistakes
http://www.chevybolt.org/forum/82-charg ... arger.html
http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6821
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