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It looks like they've done this so that the plug can fit into a normal 15 amp socket. The one at barlee st may not allow the all weather plug to fit
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mikedufty wrote: Can anyone explain the charging cable differences previously discussed to me?
Mine has a black cable. There seems to be an adapter of some sort screwed together just before the 15A plug. There is a note in the documents saying
"Modified to enable control pilot signal connection to Level 2/Mode 3 EVSE"
Is this a good thing?


My 2010 hasn't been modified for J1772 pilot, and quite frankly I'm not concerned about it. Really there is 3 charge points in Perth that require it exclusively and haven't been caught short. I mainly use Elektrobay bollards from the REV project and they don't require it.

The adaptor you have is just a step-down from the 56 series Clipsal (the rugged outdoor connector) to a standard indoor 3 pin 15 amp I guess.

Did yo get a blue "Better Place" cable included with the car Mike?

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Yes it's not a big deal at the moment if you can't use j1772 stations because there are so few in Perth. Only times we have used one is to test that it worked and another time because we were at the magic nissan dealer.
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Thanks, I suspect we won't have much call for charging away from home, but nice to know what is possible. I checked mine does have 5 pins. I only have the one cable.

Are the charge points at Nissan dealers available to the Mitsubishi driving public?
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I've been charging at the Northside and Magic Nissan from time to time, but not now since I started doing karaoke about 8 weeks ago.

I probably should buy them a bottle of wine, but my rationale is that (especially with Magic Nissan) I've provided Magic with sufficient tech info
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show n tell of these gizmos
ampfibian 15A to 10A adaptor
jaycar 15A to 10A adaptor
chargeamps EVSE
evseupgrade EVSE

what you need is a chargepoint australia RFID tag.
http://www.chargepoint.com.au

I had a date with the Barlee St Bollard with my tag (green) on Valentine's day 2012. My imiev is call Evie cos it is an EV.

This year I got the orange Credit card sized tag as well as the keyring tag.
Chargepoint is no longer making the credit card sized tag.

The Barlee St bollard is on the Chargepoint australia network.
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who would pay $37k for a 2010 imiev?

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Well those ones have a 160 km range so they are worth more :)
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One investing thing is if you go to the Mitsubishi au web page they are still advertising the imiev but now when you select the car there isn't a price in the past they had them listed for about 48k + onroads around 52k drive away. Now it's price on application.

Perhaps some one should enquire and see what price they give now (it would have to be a 2014 model) a little strange how the imiev has been treated .

Perhaps they would just try and talk you into a hybride.

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I think Skippers still have a new one in stock for $30k. Mitsubishi have said they will only bring more in to order, so presumably similar to the last full list price which was around $45,000. Hard to imagine many people actually ordering one in at that price now there are alternatives, so I guess they are just doing that to be able to say they offer a full electric car.
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" Hard to imagine many people actually ordering one in at that price now there are alternatives"

I think it would be good to find out first what the list price is as it could have changed. I will make a call later and find out.

As for alternatives. In the under 50K bracket. I think there is only one alternative to the Imiev and that's the Nissan Leaf. BMW is a big jump up in price.

We just don't have much to pick from in AU.

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Charged mine today from my father's EVSE equiped charger and it worked fine as was predicted above.
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I should say it was a clipper creek charging station.
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http://ampfibian.com.au/product/mini/

just found this $89. ooh i gotta get one just to try it out.

this is the 20A 3 phase plug version
http://ampfibian.com.au/product/tp-10/
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That ampfibian mini is much better value than the Ampfibian RV02 albeit it's not recommended for outdoor/wet weather use.

$89 is good but $67.99 with free postage on ebay is even better :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321638563343 ... EBIDX%3AIT
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just went down to Paceway to drop off 2011 imiev for 60k km service

According to Craig Jackson manager of preloved cars, Mitsubishi no longer offer 5 year warranty on 2010 imiev battery.
Just the balance of the years which is possibly 1 year now.
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Ouch.......

Prices should go down on whats left then.......
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Hi all,

Bumped to this thread by chance. I saw iMiev price at Mitsubishi Paceway at $18k and $17k and said to myself "WOW!! What a price".

However, after reading this whole thread (got too much time), now I'm not so sure anymore. Can anyone help me with:

How can you tell the state of the battery? Can I simply drive around the block (hopefully allowed test drive), let say 5km and see how many bar graph gone down? Is this 'bar graph' reliable enough? i.e. represents 0 to 16kWh in linear fashion? If one of the cell is out of balance, can I simply balance it by charging it for a looooong time (hopefully cell balancer built in)?

What options to charge this iMiev MY10? Is it only 15A plug?

Anyone know how well Mitsubishi support this iMiev? Someone mentioned in this thread (sorry, too lazy to click 'back' to check your name) regarding regular service. How regular is this? Every 6 months? Expected cost?

I'm a bit torn apart from buying this one vs the one from WA EV trial (converted Focus). The 5-seater Ford Focus is a big factor for me, but may be swayed into the iMiev due to WOW price!! :)

Please help (but sorry, can't give you a carton of beer)!!
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Yes, the iMiev will balance the cells. The car and charger system is extremely smart.
The iMiev has a BLDC motor and the drive system is also very clever. It has regen. braking - the Focus does not (unless I'm wrong about the converted Focus' being DC).
Service on the iMiev - brake fluid purge every now and then - something else (motor coolant?) at some extreme distance.

I won't try to answer all your questions as there are plenty of forum members who own the iMievs - but my money would be definitely on the iMiev.
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Oh and check out this thread - the journey is similar to yours. It gets more iMievy about page 3.
viewtopic.php?title=i-want-an-ev-but-wh ... 34&start=1
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The iMiev is better built - it's a production vehicle whereas the focus is a conversion.
production vehicles tend to be more reliable than conversions

having said that, the focus is converted using parts you can buy new from both evworks and evpower, in the event of an issue

I personally went for the iMiev, but I really like little RWD cars

re servicing - I wouldn't bother, it's all just fluid checks and inspections, nothing a dealer really needs to be paid to do
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Johny wrote: Oh and check out this thread - the journey is similar to yours. It gets more iMievy about page 3.
viewtopic.php?title=i-want-an-ev-but-wh ... 34&start=1


Hi Johny, thanks heaps, that thread is exactly what I'm looking for. Me calling the dealer now!
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You might want to argue the price down based on the post above about battery warranty viewtopic.php?title=ex-better-place-vic ... 130#p55541
$15,000 to $20,000 is what they were asking with the 5 year battery warranty. Still a good price though, and I don't think you'll find a cheaper one elsewhere.
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Great cars, just got the front windows tinted on ours to make it even better ($195).[/QUOTE]
Mike, which company did you use for the tinting. What type did you go for?
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Had it done at tintworks Myaree because it was close and cheap. black azz35 film on the front windows and windscreen strip. A few places tried to convince us to put clear film on the rear as well for extra UV resistance, but we thought that was a bit unnecessary for a city car. The windscreen strip is a bit distracting at the moment, but suspect I will get used to it. Hopefully it will reduce the invisible speedo issues which seem to be caused by sun coming through that bit and reflecting off the steering column.
Technically you are not supposed to have tinting on the area of windscreen swept by the wipers, but on the i-MiEV the big single wiper goes very near the top of the screen, so there is a risk of being fined by over-zealous police.
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Prices are coming down now. The i-miev from Victoria are now selling for between 21,999 to $22,999. Still expensive but I hope they will keep dropping the prices sooner than later.
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