Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by carnut1100 » Fri, 10 Aug 2018, 06:24

Imiev drivetrain is a good one.
Once the controller and charger etc are in there won’t be any engine bay for batteries and you won’t fit a whole imiev pack in the boot though.

I know of a wrecked imiev that went for less than $2k complete

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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by Richo » Fri, 10 Aug 2018, 12:41

Bozaicars wrote:
Thu, 09 Aug 2018, 16:06
I MIEV sounds interesting...
Parts from a wreck?
Japanese import?
Parts import?
Oddly I have been looking the last couple of weeks and haven't found anything worthwhile.
The Japanese import would be of some interest as they have the Toshiba SCiB batteries due to the colder climate.
It would be cheaper to find a write-off in Australia rather than importing parts.

Don't forget if you want the miev/minicab motor it is setup for 300+ volts.
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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by Bozaicars » Sun, 12 Aug 2018, 11:03

OK so 300volts.
What are the real world implications of 300V?
More batteries?
More available GO GO?
Need to stick with the original controller and electronics?
Some of the conversion companies have suggested 96V, but didn't give a reason...
I'm a noob remember.
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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by Bozaicars » Sun, 12 Aug 2018, 11:56

Stuff I've read indicates that the Minicab miev seems to have a lower kW rating than the imiiv. Yet also says they share all the same equipment. (EV wise)
Is this so, or a case of controlling the same motor differently?
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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by Bozaicars » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 08:00

Bozaicars wrote:
Sun, 12 Aug 2018, 11:03
OK so 300volts.
What are the real world implications of 300V?
More batteries?
More available GO GO?
Need to stick with the original controller and electronics?
Some of the conversion companies have suggested 96V, but didn't give a reason...
I'm a noob remember.

I can get a Minicab imported for around The $9k mark.
"Assuming" I can use everything from this to convert into a mini, Is there any inherent problems with Imiev equipment that might be incompatible or problematic with regards to repairs or replacement?
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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by mikedufty » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 09:39

You could have a look at some of the i-MiEV discussions here. There are issues with components being VIN-locked and having to be programmed by a Mitsubishi dealer. May not be an issue if you keep everything and never have to replace a component. Or may not be an issue if you can bypass the relevant components and use something else.
I think both varieties of i-MiEV are rear wheel drive if that matters.

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Re: Total NOOB to convert Classic Mini

Post by coulomb » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 16:34

Bozaicars wrote:
Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 08:00
Is there any inherent problems with Imiev equipment that might be incompatible or problematic with regards to repairs or replacement?
There is a chance that the BMS will throw an error if it doesn't see the battery for a period of time, probably some months. That should be fine if you have the appropriate error clearing equipment, but these can be hard to source, and the Mitsubishi-specific firmware can be even harder to source. But people have done it. You might be able to avoid this problem if the conversion is quick, or at least the BMS to battery connection is quick. If it has to be extended for whatever reason, perhaps arrange some temporary wiring so that the BMS sees the battery, even if they are in separate vehicles.
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