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Post by TasyMoke » Mon, 04 Apr 2011, 01:29

Can anyone direct me to information specific to converting a Moke to EV?

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Post by Richo » Mon, 04 Apr 2011, 07:18

There have been sightings of a Moke in Perth with what appears to be Sky Energy cells in the back tray.
But no-one is claiming responsibility for it...

Sorry I can't find anything specific that has already been done.
Maybe you would be the first?!?

EDIT: Speeling makes all the duffrence
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Post by Tritium_James » Mon, 04 Apr 2011, 15:33

There's a Mini conversion in Melbourne that's been around for 5-6 years. Custom BLDC motor & controller through a chain drive, and I think it was PbA batteries.

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Post by Johny » Mon, 04 Apr 2011, 15:57

A Moke would be a great conversion. If you are mechanically adept a modern FWD train while getting rid of the gearbox-in-sump while you are at it. The Moke has all that space in the side cavities which would be good space for part of the pack.
You would have to start with a good one to make the project worthwhile.
There are two 1960's Minis on evalbum - one in NSW, one in NZ.
http://www.evalbum.com/2407
http://www.evalbum.com/1715

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Post by woody » Mon, 04 Apr 2011, 16:40

There's a moke conversion underway in Sydney, but I've only heard 2nd hand. Headway batteries. There is also another Mini conversion completed fairly recently in Sydney, my friend's boss's. Conversion done by Thunderbolt I think - DC / ThunderSky?.
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Post by seligtype3 » Thu, 07 Apr 2011, 04:28

Mini would be great! Almost chose to do a Mini panel van before going VW. Didn't come across too many examples in early research. What's the GVM on a moke/mini?
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Post by Richo » Thu, 07 Apr 2011, 20:58



Hmmm it says controller limited to 320A(8C) for 112kph will go much faster unlimited.
144V pack
72V loss for 320A
is 23kW

Does this sound correct?
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Post by Jeff Owen » Thu, 07 Apr 2011, 23:50

[quote="What's the GVM on a moke/mini?[/QUOTE"]

From memory, 1000kg

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Post by EV2Go » Fri, 08 Apr 2011, 00:27

Johny wrote: A Moke would be a great conversion. If you are mechanically adept a modern FWD train while getting rid of the gearbox-in-sump while you are at it. The Moke has all that space in the side cavities which would be good space for part of the pack.
You would have to start with a good one to make the project worthwhile.
There are two 1960's Minis on evalbum - one in NSW, one in NZ.
http://www.evalbum.com/2407
http://www.evalbum.com/1715
Thanks Johny I was looking for 2407 on these forums but couldn't find it. He also has a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9BL0qtt8Gs

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Post by gttool » Sat, 16 Apr 2011, 20:37

I am currently in the process of converting a Moke with no gearbox
it is a little tight but will all fit very neatly
i am using an r160 diff and 17r costov with a blower belt drive showing through the grill
will have the motor and diff assembly finished and test fitted to the car by the end of next week hopefully (between other jobs )
the side pods do make good battery boxes but not quite enough room will fit about 96 headways in each side and 80 in the front or could go between the rear subframe but more weight in the front would be better

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Post by david s » Sun, 24 Jul 2011, 18:23

Have often thought of using a Moke as a hybrid elec. by removing the back axle assembly and replacing it with a complete rear axle, including the diff, from another small car. This way an elec motor could be coupled to the diff and the original motor and gearbox can be left intact. The generator could also be used to charge the batteries. The vehicle would then have tons of range, could be used as elec only or ICE only, or both, giving it also a 4WD capacity.

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Post by gttool » Sun, 24 Jul 2011, 22:39

sounds like a plan but would have trouble getting it registered as it wasn't originally 4wd
but staring with a small 4wd would work
eg suzuki 4*4 chassis with a moke body !

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Post by david s » Tue, 26 Jul 2011, 00:52

"sounds like a plan but would have trouble getting it registered"

That's the main reason i built an electric bicycle. No reg. licensing or certification.

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Post by roddilkes » Thu, 28 Jul 2011, 16:48

Darren Hamley has converted a Moke in Perth. He drives it every day and it is a great conversion. Mokes are very light weight and have plenty of space in the back for batteries, very simple.

I suspect the crash safety rating would be somewhat less than a Jumbuck (which apparently is not saying much ;)

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Post by woody » Thu, 28 Jul 2011, 16:50

Being rear-ended by a 4WD in a moke I imagine is a once in a lifetime experience. (very near the end of your life)
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Post by Richo » Thu, 28 Jul 2011, 20:37

Richo wrote: There have been sightings of a Moke in Perth with what appears to be Sky Energy cells in the back tray.
But no-one is claiming responsibility for it...


roddilkes wrote: Darren Hamley has converted a Moke in Perth. He drives it every day and it is a great conversion. Mokes are very light weight and have plenty of space in the back for batteries, very simple.


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Post by gttool » Thu, 28 Jul 2011, 21:06

The Moke i am converting is nearly finished and there will soon be sightings on the east coast have posted some pics on the Mokes Inc forum   
http://www.mokesinc.org/index.php/topic,7783.0.html

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Post by EV2Go » Fri, 29 Jul 2011, 02:46

There's only one question left to be ask... is it under-driven or over-driven Image

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Post by Tritium_James » Fri, 29 Jul 2011, 15:53

If the system is actually capable of 150kW in a Moke then I'd say it's over-driven!

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Post by Johny » Fri, 29 Jul 2011, 16:06

gttool wrote: The Moke i am converting is nearly finished and there will soon be sightings on the east coast have posted some pics on the Mokes Inc forum   
http://www.mokesinc.org/index.php/topic,7783.0.html
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Post by gttool » Tue, 02 Aug 2011, 02:06

I think its a little bit overdriven
electric cars dont have to be slow!
a choke loom is a Chinese Moke loom quite well made compared to the original except it doesnt come with a wiring diagram and you have to work it all out yourself
headways will be good but a bit of work

finished the wiring and the wheels turned on sunday
just needs the battery packs fitted now



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Post by Richo » Wed, 03 Aug 2011, 20:42

I like pictures Image

Edit: here they are - sorry!
http://www.mokesinc.org/index.php/topic,7783.0.html
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Post by gttool » Mon, 15 Aug 2011, 01:32

The mokes going !!

The timing belt makes a distinctive sound but is not annoyingly noisy it is very smooth and no vibrations as per the original ice
the motor and diff is solid mounted to the subframe also

Would happily accelerate over 100km/h without any problem at a max of 200a   the gauge is not calibrated yet so I don’t know if that is completely correct

Brakes need a good bleed and windscreen needs a clean

The controller got warm to touch the motor got a little warmer 5 seconds touch is enough this was straight after 100km/h run and straight into the shed

much nicer to drive than the original ice powered car i must say !

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Post by Richo » Tue, 16 Aug 2011, 06:50

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Post by el_gallo_azul » Tue, 24 Nov 2015, 13:20

Hmmm that's a shame. I was as keen as mustard to see http://www.mokesinc.org/index.php/topic,7783.0.html but it looks to me like http://www.mokesinc.org is completely gone.

Is similar material now anywhere else?

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