antiscab wrote:the claims aren't that far out, which is partially why i didn't bother to double check.i mean they have a 36kwh battery on board (lithium cobalt, so even better than the lithium us hobby guys use).a mazda2 uses ~15kwh/100km, at 100kmh at the battery
so 240km at speed isn't too hard to expect.36kwh is a huge amount of energy for a car that size.shame they've only made one. Matt
Ok...., so if I am correct, you are saying that given a budget of $70k you could build an EV conversion to achieve those sort of performance specs?
Goombi wrote:someone that starts on e dream EV needs a lot of money 70k is not enough something like 2-300K Office- secretary 36x24x36 -tea room --Workshp- rental equipment staff -engineers electrical rngineer- panel beater welder etc etc. to setup a workshop with full capacity staff will absorb best part of 150K and you still have to outsource. Then you need weekly budget-- components batteries we all know what is involved ( but we improvise) set up like this cannot improvise all parts have to be hand made and have to be and look professional.
Then finally the big fanfare and bottle of plonk. and the bank manager is knocking on the roller door.. Now franticaly orders are being taken even without final test( certified) but no one is interested. and why? the budget took the value of the EV beyond anyones interest.
The company tries to refinance or take some wine growers for partners ( ) --no intererst What now.. Dead stop. Do you know the price of the car? anyone? trying to sell-- no buyer disapointment
BEV had also hard start and I don't think he is out of the woods yet
Of course you are quite right, the actual manufactured cost would have to be much lower to allow for the costs of establishing and operating a business. But I was just using the Figure of $70k to illustrate what could be produced if converters were given a generous budget.
Woody wrote: Me being me would convert a 1959 Ford Fairlane (AKA barge fairlane), or '59 Chev/Buick/Cadillac Plenty of room for people, batteries, generators. With enough TS to drag 2 tonnes of tortured tin around, a tritium wavesculptor controller, lazy 180 frame 30kW 4 pole direct to the ford nine inch diff and then to the whitewalls. Plently of budget for Aircon. 300Wh/km * 250km = 85kWh =~ 30,000 AHA of
lithium =1.5 tonne battery pack = OMG WTF BBQ.Performance expectations: I'd expect it to do a lot more damage than average against a discovery in a head on. OK - scrap the range down to 100km and 500kg of lithium - looks a lot more fun. Spend the saved money on a sunliner or skylines convertible as a base.
God bless ya! You are my kinda Guy! Whooah! A '59 Ford Fairlaine Sunliner eh? The model with the retractable hard top? (twenty years before Merc's effort)! Great stuff!
And why not? After all if Smith/Ford can build an EV 12 ton truck to run 120 klms at 80+ klm, surely it can't be too hard to get a 59 Coup de ville kick some EV ass?
Ah, but as to the Tesla S at $A70k? Well, I'll believe it when I see it! It's easy to quote prices for a vehicle not yet produced let alone a RHD version ARD'd and on sale in Australia. I would be more likely to expect that the Ford Focus EV will arrive with a $A 30-35k for the luxury pack model. (local assembly is contemplated).
There is a report from a usually reliable source that Ford US has received 5 Australian Falcons sent to the Ford in-house EV R&D centre, two have been forwarded to Ford's outside consultants, Azure Dynamics Inc. and Magna International Inc. (the guy's behind the EV Transit) to assess for EV conversion.
A Falcon EV? My bet is it will be more likely to be a Hybrid to compete with the Aurion.
However, I digress! Thank you for your EV concept. In your opinion which would make a better 'showcase EV donor' a (Enos spec) MX 5, Maserati Bi-turbo Spyder convertible(1988) or a (1969) Alfa-Romeo 1750 GTV coupe?
Think about it, what could be achieved with a $70k budget?