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by karlg
Fri, 15 Jan 2016, 22:23
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

I can tell you that I felt shocked and gutted when I discovered, after being a member for years, that people modify their old posts.

It's fine if people want to do this, but all members need to be told that this is the practice in this forum. Otherwise, it's not fair.
by karlg
Fri, 15 Jan 2016, 15:46
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

Your approach would be fine if you could trust people to do the right thing. Unfortunately, this is the internet, and you can't trust anybody or anything - as Adverse Effects pointed out earlier. Sure, you and I would do the right thing - and most others on the forum. But there needs to be a safety ...
by karlg
Thu, 14 Jan 2016, 20:52
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

Hi Weber, I agree with you that incorrect information should be corrected. On the other hand, a thread in this forum is a record of a virtual conversation, so altering it is to make it incorrect. A possible example: I say: It costs $5,000 to buy a new super motor. You say: Karlg, you know nothing, I...
by karlg
Sat, 09 Jan 2016, 04:03
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

The most common reason for editing posts I have seen completing an incomplete post - when people hit shift+return or ctrl+return trying to get a new line but accidentally post early. .. and there is an accepted way of addressing this: you allow modifications to posts for a short period of time. Thi...
by karlg
Sat, 09 Jan 2016, 03:52
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

Hi Weber, long time no hear! I wonder, karlg, if the fact that you are studying law hasn't made you see legal problems where there are none. Yes, there could be such a problem in principle, but in practice they have not occurred in this forum, as far as I know. .. and there's the rub: how can you fi...
by karlg
Wed, 12 Aug 2015, 15:00
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

I bet you don’t go back and check every thread you’ve ever posted in. How can you know others haven’t changed their posts and changed the meaning of the thread? Some of you guys have put up hundreds of posts. How can you possibly check them all? Being able to see that a post was edited tells you not...
by karlg
Tue, 11 Aug 2015, 15:16
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

I agree that the forums should be light and not used for historical content: they should be about people chatting. If you have a project where you want to keep information, share it, yet be able to modify it, there are much better tools for that on the internet - e.g. Wikis. The AEVA web site has a ...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 23:21
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

People who respond to other people's posts have to know that there are some on the forums reinventing their history - that they have to defend the integrity of the conversation and have to deliberately quote the message they are replying to. If you don't know about the problem, you can't defend agai...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 20:31
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

It's about the integrity of the forums. A forum thread is like a discussion between people, you know, like at and AEVA meeting or down at the pub, and it's not right for people to go around changing what they said. Worse is that there are members don't know that this sort of thing happens. If they d...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 19:30
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

Does an email you send to another person remain your property?

All posts on the AEVA forum are AEVA's property.

You have certain rights to your content, such as no re-use by AEVA without your permission etc.

(Hey, I edited my post!)
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 17:16
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

I'm no longer sure what you are trying to protect against. The person who edits their post, or the person who edits the contents of someone else's post within the quote. http://forums.aeva.asn.au/smileys/smiley1.gif A person who summarises another's post can be accused of misrepresentation without ...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 16:35
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

I'm sorry, that doesn't solve it since it's the same as summarising their post because you can edit what you put in their quote. Also, you have to know that this is something that a person might do in order to defend against it. For example, if this was taken as the sanctioned response to the proble...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 15:12
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

How do you find out if someone has changed a post in a discussion you were involved in? I don't think this is possible. I don't think it possible for you to summarise their post as it could be alleged that you misrepresented it, and that would stick since you would not have anything to point to as j...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 05:09
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: Changing history - well, past posts, anyway
Replies: 44
Views: 5447

Changing history - well, past posts, anyway

Did you know that on this forum, you can change posts you made in the past ? That is, no matter how long ago you posted a message, you can go back and change it? Did you know that some people actively do this? I don't know about you, but that just seems so wrong to me, I'm shocked. Just think about ...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 04:28
Forum: Admin Notices
Topic: For Sale/Wanted notices: Who should see them?
Replies: 14
Views: 1943

For Sale/Wanted notices: Who should see them?

I am dead against people putting personal information on publicly searchable web sites. That is just asking for SPAM spiders to come along and Hoover all that information up (pardon the mixed metaphors!). The rub is: how does an interested party get in touch with the advertiser? Please note 1) that ...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 01:00
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Yes, I suppose several people here are right: if the people in northern Tasmania get sick of being dudded with meetings they can't go to, all they have to do is form their own branch. All it takes to form your own branch is to have 5 members. That's a low bar and there should be heaps of branches, n...
by karlg
Mon, 10 Aug 2015, 00:55
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Karl a question for you lets say I want to create a new branch I have 5 members in the following LGAs 2 Maitland city 1 Newcastle City 1 Cessnock City 1 Lake Mac city (and yes this is the spread of members of the forum near me) + gosford or wyong city but it's now nearing the edge of my range radiu...
by karlg
Fri, 19 Jun 2015, 16:18
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Well, it works retrospectively rather than prospectively. Let's say you have an injury and you go to Medicare and they say they aren't going to cover that, you can take them to court and say, 'Here are ten people with the same injury you have said yes to, so you can't, without good reason, say no to...
by karlg
Fri, 19 Jun 2015, 04:18
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

"However I can see a Bunbury branch being likely in the next 5 years. If we were called the WA branch, then we'd just rename to suit." .. except that you won't have to do it because people in the past have already considered and come up with a good solution. "Except it's NOT AEVA policy! It's merely...
by karlg
Fri, 19 Jun 2015, 04:11
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Karl - Mark is the chair of the Canberra AEVA. He's not on the national executive - President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer and Membership secretary. This group of 5 has the executive power to decide on matters of national interest - we vote on this at every AGM. If a second branch decides ...
by karlg
Wed, 17 Jun 2015, 20:59
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Rhills, I agree totally with you: if they want to have a Tasmanian branch as well as a Hobart branch, no worries. The issue is that they want a single branch run from Hobart, called 'The Tasmanian branch' to cover the whole state, and that is simply not possible. They also want AEVA to change its po...
by karlg
Wed, 17 Jun 2015, 16:26
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

To quote from the constitution: PART 8    —      BRANCHES OF THE ASSOCIATION 82   Branches (1) The Association shall have Branches in such states, areas and cities as the National Council may decide. I don't see what incentive you have for opposing this? 1/ I am not arguing whether there should or ...
by karlg
Wed, 17 Jun 2015, 15:30
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Hello Chuq, Thank you for your message. (I was born in Burnie and grew up in Launceston (went to Glen Dhu primary, Kings Meadows High and Launceston Matric) before going to uni in Hobart and spending 10 years there.) It is about the north-south thing, but not in the way you think: We all agree that ...
by karlg
Wed, 17 Jun 2015, 02:43
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

Karl - the National council passed the motion on the 10th of June 2015. The name is the Tasmanian Branch, and although Daryl noted the departure from convention, the vote was carried (all in favour of formation of the Tasmanian Branch). Please put this to rest. Cheers, Chris Hi Chris, I contacted t...
by karlg
Wed, 17 Jun 2015, 00:11
Forum: AEVA TAS Branch
Topic: Name?
Replies: 33
Views: 4261

Name?

These are my thoughts, and my impressions of what other local members have expressed. Thank you. How many of these are from outside the Hobart area? We have no definite plans for location of meetings, other than that the AGM is at the State Cinema in Hobart on 15th of July. It has been mentioned in...